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Quote: JB Down Under "He is the angriest looking man ever! Even when he scores he still looks angry!'"


Intensity!

Was also consoling manly players straight after the drop goal went over, gracious winner. Seems like he's really come of age from his days at saints when he once stormed off the field without shaking hands.

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Always been a great player. It's just a shame we've lost Sam Burgess because I really like the looks of this England team right now and there are some more good lads breaking through.

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James Graham is regarded by the best judges in the NRL (e.g. Phil Gould and Andrew Johns) as the best prop in the world.

Add George Burgess and Tom Burgess as alternating partners for James Graham, and Chris Hill as Graham's 20 minute replacement, then you can see why the England front row looks awesome.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "James Graham is regarded by the best judges in the NRL (e.g. Phil Gould and Andrew Johns) as the best prop in the world.

Add George Burgess and Tom Burgess as alternating partners for James Graham, and Chris Hill as Graham's 20 minute replacement, then you can see why the England front row looks awesome.'"


It does, but not so long back we also had Fielden, Morley and Peacock all in their pomp and we still got out muscled.

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Graham got us to a grand final in his last year. When we had two rookies at scrum half. Not saying he did it alone, but it's no coincidence the drop off when he left.

Next year it will have taken 4 years and many changes to recover from the loss of one man.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Graham got us to a grand final in his last year. When we had two rookies at scrum half. Not saying he did it alone, but it's no coincidence the drop off when he left.

Next year it will have taken 4 years and many changes to recover from the loss of one man.'"


I still hold out faint hopes of a return to Saints but it's not likely I know. Never replaced, unfortunately.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "It does, but not so long back we also had Fielden, Morley and Peacock all in their pomp and we still got out muscled.'"



none of them 3 are anywhere near as good as burgess or Graham. Their games are built on brute force and physicality (peacock has developed into so much more but at the time it was based on this) but burgess and Graham are a lot more rounded than that.

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Quote: dubairl "none of them 3 are anywhere near as good as burgess or Graham. Their games are built on brute force and physicality (peacock has developed into so much more but at the time it was based on this) but burgess and Graham are a lot more rounded than that.'"


I assume you are referring to Sam Burgess in which case i would certainly agree but i was responding to his post that had the Burgess twins and Graham not Sam, as obviously he is on his way to Union now so is a non factor for England.

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Chris Hill is currently the best prop this side of the world, and capable of long stints, great footwork for a prop and adding him to the pack with the guys in Oz means we have a ferocious set of forwards.

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