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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Although there's no issue with banging the drum and it's right to mention the Sky viewing figures, it's utter nonsense to compare this to a new TV outfit (BT) who are just starting to attract subscribers.
Excellent numbers on Sky though ![]()
I think the RFL are unsubtly making a very clear point to both sponsors and supports, given the amount of complaints there has been amongst the RL community that the RL didn't look to BT Sport as an option....
Good work by the RFL - need to get this message through to as many journos and potential sponsors as possible. It's all about slowly changing perceptions.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Although there's no issue with banging the drum and it's right to mention the Sky viewing figures, it's utter nonsense to compare this to a new TV outfit (BT) who are just starting to attract subscribers.
Excellent numbers on Sky though ![]()
Of course it is! BT have just paid a £1 billion for CL rights. They need to claw their money back and with viewing figures of 65k for an English prem rugby match, will it will be difficult to do! Will they really get that many more viewers for PSG v.s Galatasaray for example? If not they may not have been able to bid a large amount when our contract came up for renewal.
Outstanding viewing figures and this is why going wit SKY is such a better deal. It's not just about the £££'s (although I still don't think BT would have bid as much as SKY just have). But it's about marketing and exposing the game. On Friday SKY went around all SL clubs interviewing and marketed Fridays game superbly, hence why we got outstanding viewing figures.
BT aren't really in a position to do this and I never see any marketing for union premiership games ( I couldn't tell you which union games are on BT this week)
Everyone should be proud of these figures! Well done RFL. I like Koukash and have a lot of respect for IL, but I think they were wrong wen saying we should have waited for BT IMHO
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I've not been his biggest fan, but I'd like to think big Nigel ran IL personally to hear his thoughts on this!'"
I am sure you don't understand what Koukash and Lenagan are complaining about.
IL response would be "so why have you secured such a small amount of money for the main league sponsorship when we are getting viewing figures that smash rugby union? Obviously we are a main attraction from sky sports, so why panic and accept the first offer? Clearly it is a sellers market at the moment why didn't we wait and capitalise on it? Have you just used the new deal to fund the new league structure, so if it falls flat on its face we still have money? and not actually had any forward thinking."
and the Nigel would stutter and say well i am still in charge here is a 3000pound fine. |
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By the way they are fantastic figures and it just shows it may be a game from up north but people still love it.
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| Quote: dubairl "I am sure you don't understand what Koukash and Lenagan are complaining about.
IL response would be "so why have you secured such a small amount of money for the main league sponsorship when we are getting viewing figures that smash rugby union? Obviously we are a main attraction from sky sports, so why panic and accept the first offer? Clearly it is a sellers market at the moment why didn't we wait and capitalise on it? Have you just used the new deal to fund the new league structure, so if it falls flat on its face we still have money? and not actually had any forward thinking."
and the Nigel would stutter and say well i am still in charge here is a 3000pound fine.'"
And on that point I completely agree with them! The sponsorship of our great sport is continually undersold. If wire can get Emirates on board anything is possible.
I don't agree with them that the tv deal isn't brilliant though |
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Good start. The union figures on BT have rarely cracked 150k and plenty sub 100k. So let's get this right, sky offered more than BT paid for union (which traditionally gets a lot more) sky draws a much much bigger audience for RL than BT could provide. And this is a bad deal how?
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| Quote: Saint Simon "And on that point I completely agree with them! The sponsorship of our great sport is continually undersold. If wire can get Emirates on board anything is possible.
I don't agree with them that the tv deal isn't brilliant though'"
Personally i don't have a problem with the TV deal either but if those two believe they could have secured better or at least we could of tried i can see that point of view as well. I also think they was more upset with the tactics the RFL used to force it through.
But you can't just keep using every success story as a way to belittle IL and Koukash considering what they are doing within the game at this moment.
Last thing i will say on this topic or it will just go way off topic. |
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| Quote: dubairl "I am sure you don't understand what Koukash and Lenagan are complaining about.
IL response would be "so why have you secured such a small amount of money for the main league sponsorship when we are getting viewing figures that smash rugby union? Obviously we are a main attraction from sky sports, so why panic and accept the first offer? Clearly it is a sellers market at the moment why didn't we wait and capitalise on it? Have you just used the new deal to fund the new league structure, so if it falls flat on its face we still have money? and not actually had any forward thinking."
and the Nigel would stutter and say well i am still in charge here is a 3000pound fine.'"
And the short but sweet response would be: "you voted for them Ian"
Ian Lenegan got oustmarted, out politicked and pressured in to a bad decision by Nigel Wood, He needs to be kept as far away from Barney Francis and his team as possible. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "And the short but sweet response would be
never made the wrong decision in life when being pressured? Show a sign of solidarity was the message from the previous meeting and all clubs agreed to it. Also your forgetting to mention the bribe the clubs received, hardly out smarted. But sure you can look at it in a blind manner if you like  .
if you had 12 IL running super league clubs we would be a hell of a lot stronger than we are at the moment.
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| Quote: dubairl "never made the wrong decision in life when being pressured? Show a sign of solidarity was the message from the previous meeting and all clubs agreed to it. Also your forgetting to mention the bribe the clubs received, hardly out smarted. But sure you can look at it in a blind manner if you like ![]()
The good dr didn't feel pressured into agreeing. He voted against and I respect his decision, even if I don't agree with it
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: dubairl "never made the wrong decision in life when being pressured? Show a sign of solidarity was the message from the previous meeting and all clubs agreed to it. Also your forgetting to mention the bribe the clubs received, hardly out smarted. But sure you can look at it in a blind manner if you like ![]()
Because of course the negotiating team at Sky sports are known for taking a calm collegiate approach to negotiations. 
If IL thinks that a meeting with Nigel Wood is a high pressure environment, then Barney Francis and the negotiating team and Sky Sports would eat him alive.
People don’t really have a problem with IL having a dissenting view, with him disagreeing with the deal but every reason and explanation he has given regarding his actions describe a person entirely incapable of doing the job he is criticising Nigel Wood for.
Contrary to popular belief im no great fan of Nigel Wood’s administration, I think he is making some huge mistakes. This isn’t one of them, this is a case of him doing a pretty good job and its difficult to find criticism of his negotiations with sky credible, when the one of the main voices making them couldn’t even negotiate with SL chairmen who were on his side.
Koukash comes out of this looking a hell of a lot better, at least he has the courage of his convictions and stood up to be counted.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It does point out the benefit of being on a much wider viewing platform though. There are 6/7million people with sky sports, 2m with BT sports.
I think we can all guess where this thread will end up though, with a spreadsheet and a complaint that the RFL didn’t issue the same press release when some game is 3.1% down on last years viewing figures.'"
Ok, but that's about 6% of people with Sky watching RL and only 3.5% of people with BT watching Union. It's still showing RL is better at attracting a viewing audience. |
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Fantastic news this. The mere mention of Championship clubs coming back into the fold has already whetted the appetite of the public. Marvellous.
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| Quote: littlerich "Fantastic news this. The mere mention of Championship clubs coming back into the fold has already whetted the appetite of the public. Marvellous.'"
 Best stretch yet! |
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