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Quote: Conroy "As if you'll finish in the top 4
writing off Saints = schoolboy error

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Quote: JonB95 "writing off Saints

.. Except in the Grand Final

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Quote: Conroy "As if you'll finish in the top 4
Tut, tut.............you should know by now, every year its whose going to beat Saints in the Grand Final.

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I hope Leeds and Saints finish 7th and 8th and still make the GF yet again. The entire league campaign has become a joke as the Championship is decided by a 4 week cup competition. Only something ridiculous like that would force the RFL to change the format.

The current format gives an advantage to teams in 5th and 6th over 3rd and 4th in that 5th/6th play lower opposition at home to gain momentum and confidence and 3rd/4th either get battered or lose narrowly in a bruising game. Has teams 3rd/4th ever both got through to week 3 under the top 8 format?

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Quote: Dougy " Has teams 3rd/4th ever both got through to week 3 under the top 8 format?'"


Saints finished 3rd last year d040.gif

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Quote: Wales for super L "Saints finished 3rd last year

You didn't read the sentence properly!

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Dico "I actually liked the 1v4 idea in principle back in the day when 8 was first discussed but having seen it in action I think I prefer the 1v8 system tbh. Hudds were poor back end of last year but they were shafted to a point compared to Leeds' run over 2 games, I think the 1v8 system is a must'"


Yeah it wasn't fair that Hudds had to go play Warrington away in the playoffs and Leeds didn't have to play @ The Halliwell Jones at all in last year's playoffs............oh wait....
If it was the 1v8 system then Hudds (4th) would of played Leeds (5th) at The Galpharm in last year's playoffs but again that didn't happen either in last year's playoffs..........oh wait....

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top 5 playoff.. simple as that

week 1;
A - 2nd v 3rd
B - 4th v 5th (loser out)

week 2;
C - 1st v winner A (Winner to Grand Final)
D - Loser A v Winner B (Loser Out)

Week 3;
Loser C v Winner D (Winner to Grand Final)

Each position is better than the next..

The fact is this year saints could finish 12 points behind wigan in 4th, win at wigan, and they take all their advantage, as we did last year with 2nd/3rd.

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Why is it 8 team play off there aren't 8 good teams in super league, there aren't even 4 real quality, consistent teams. The league is the weakest it has been for a long, long time thanks to the low intensity games including widnes, london etc.

Get the league back down to 12 and look at bringing it down to 10

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The whole system rewards mediocrity. 8 out of 14 teams is too many in the first place but then splitting those 8 teams in to a top and bottom 4 means that 5th and 6th get easier games than 1st and 2nd, how does that work!? The way the 2nd chance system works also means repeat fixtures are likely. I think it should be a top 5 (or at a push 7) where 1st place gets week one off and a simple top v bottom knockout system. The club call is just silly and needs scrapping ASAP.

I also can't believe the NRL have implemented a similar format to ours! I know the McIntyre system had its critics down under but it was much better than this.

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Original top 5 format was the best IMO. A very significant reward for finishing top or second. Having said that I still think last year was an anomoly and this season we will see two teams from the top 3 in the final. Leeds were going to be a wild card last year down the table after their awful start. Not this year - or then again......

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Quote: paulscunthorpe "The fact is this year saints could finish 12 points behind wigan in 4th, win at wigan, and they take all their advantage, as we did last year with 2nd/3rd.'"


While I agree on a top 5 format, you might say that if Wigan (assuming they finish top) can't beat a team at home that they finished 12 points ahead of in the league table then they don't deserve any further advantage.

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Quote: DHM "While I agree on a top 5 format, you might say that if Wigan (assuming they finish top) can't beat a team at home that they finished 12 points ahead of in the league table then they don't deserve any further advantage.'"


If they finish top by 12 points, they would clearly be the best team in the league. No need for a play off competition at all icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: ThePrinter "Yeah it wasn't fair that Hudds had to go play Warrington away in the playoffs and Leeds didn't have to play @ The Halliwell Jones at all in last year's playoffs............oh wait....
If it was the 1v8 system then Hudds (4th) would of played Leeds (5th) at The Galpharm in last year's playoffs but again that didn't happen either in last year's playoffs..........oh wait....'"


What?? Hudds played Leeds after taking an absolute pasting around the paddock from us. Im sure it'd have been a better game at the galpharm in week one than the flat affair that took place in week 2. It's all opinion but I think Hudds were at a disadvantage coming to us in week one as opposed to playing leeds at home

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The only part I dont like is the 1v4 2v3 game in week one cant see the point of.dead rubbers.

And the attendances reflect that. Sudden death games and take out a week of fixtures.

I want top 7 League leaders bye into semis 2v7 3v6 4v5.

Keep clubcall and they cant pick the next highest placed team and it does reward finishing higher in the league.

Id chuck the bottom two into the NL playoffs as well.

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