I think the biggest problem is fans only moan once their team has won the LLS, why should it be changed because they suddenly feel hard done to?

I liked the play-offs when they were the best games of the season infront of good crowds.

5 team play-off.

P+R with the bottom team in super league playing the team who wins the championship.

Yes yesterday was a great sporting day but & it is a big but! there are lots other seasons where the competition has been over four or five weeks befor the last weekend. The Scotish premier this year is an example of that. I am a fan of the play off's, we should as a game stick with our plan. The grand final is becoming a major sporting event & has been said many times it ensures that the champion won't be known untill just before nine at night on the last night of the season, the main advantage of that is that the game can be sold at premium rates to advertisers fans & sponsers. As a sport we can not turn away money. The only people who have issues are mainly fans of clubs who don't win the competition.

How about this then, keep playoffs, but have top 6 in playoffs, drop number of teams in the league from 14 to 10 and bring back promotion and relegation.

That way most seasons, everything is still to play for right until final day of season for every single team, you never know it could have some right drama where the bottom 5 teams are fighting for last playoff place and any one of them could end up going down.

I've said this myself in the past. A contingency for the situation you describe could be 1st v 2nd? Personally I agree with the many posters who say top 8 rewards mediocrity and diminishes intensity and this was certainly exacerbated by last years result. I certainly wouldn't like to get rid of the playoffs altoger as I think the GF is an amazing end to the season. We just need to find a good way of marrying the spectacle with a just reward.

Absolutely bang on

Play-offs should be top four with the top team going straight to the final, third and fourth play-off to meet the second team in the SF, third team has initial home advantage.

Bottom side in SL plays off against top side in Championship for promotion\relegation.

Simple.

The team finishing top would have three weeks between games, they'd be undercooked.

Not simple.

Top 5 is the ideal system, there is the issue of dead rubber games outside of that though.

I would like a return of [ifirst past the post[/i - imagine all the title chases of the past 16 seasons we could have had. Why on earth anyone would want to sacrifice an entire seasons worth of fixtures for 4 weeks of utter contrivance is beyond me.

If we're basing our competition of making mediocre teams feel "involved", then god help us.

So we should change the system based on the first exciting last day to a PL season in years?

Personally I would change the format of the play-offs and reduce the amount of teams to 5 or 6 but to scrap them all together? Nah. Personally I'd rather see a play-off system brought into the Premire League.

I think we need to keep the play-offs, but would agree that top 8 is a nonsense. This should be reduced to an absolute maximum of 5, in my opinion.

The champions should be the league winners, yet the powers that be refer to Leeds as 'champions'. I can't wait for a GF with the 7th & 8th team contesting it.

Yet again why 'should' they be? It's been said about 1000 times but everyone knows what is considered the most prestigious to win before the season starts, it's not like they suddenly announced the play off system after the league was finished.

Because for many people there needs to be a firm, definitive link between success in the season and being crowned champions. While I wouldn't go so far as removing the playoffs altogether I would agree with many others that they need to be reduced so that the title of champions is not dissonant with the actual success they have had.

Personally I like the playoffs (as a concept, at least) because they require a team to be successful in [iboth [/ia league and an end of season knock-out, rather than just one or the other. Unfortunately the current incarnation of the playoffs means that a team actually [idoesn't[/i have to successful at both; they can in fact experience more failure than success in the league element but be crowned champions because they succeed in the knock-out element. To me that's not what the term "champion" represents.

I'm sorry, but anyone arguing that we should bring back the first-past-the-post system based on this season's PL finish is deluded!

Not every season finishes with quite the same bang? Really? I'll tell you now, it'll probably never ever happen like that ever again. It was a one off. It would be like a team winning the GF in the way Catalan beat Saints earlier this year.

How many PL titles have been won before the last game of the year? A lot.
Fortunately for them, there are the Champions League places to play for as well as the Europa League, then there's also the relegation battle. There is something happening all over the league.

You can't replicate that in RL. We don't have a European competition. We don't have relegation. If we have first-past-the-post system, the majority of the league won't be playing for anything. And the majority of seasons will end on a damp squib.