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| Quote: Old Darlin "Misinformation......'"
Quote: Old Darlin "Blatant Misinformation never helps either'"
I am puzzled by the use of the word misinformation......especially when used to describe information regarding League events......
A simple search (yeah....google) for War of the Roses RL......gives various sites that have loads of information regarding these games...from 1895 to 2003. The last game was apparently played at Bradford, not Leeds and the crowd was 8,258.
Now, I have never taken wiki as anything other than a guideline site, but I find it hard to comprehend that anyone other than a league fan would post all the attendances and scores for over 100 years.
As it is, I believe that Roses Series would be good for the International Game in England and infinitely more usefull than the yearly hammering of France. As for the Clubs not playing "ball' and releasing players.......I would suggest that if the games were considered a form of trial for potential England players, then the players themselves may well make themselves available. Crowds, whilst not massive, averaged just under 10k in the 4 games played in the Super League era......and given the average crowds for SL in 2010 were nearly 4,000 more than 2003, it would be fair to say that a roses series, with 3 matches played at Leigh, Huddersfield and Warrington would all come close to selling out.......
......those that would argue against more games for players.....player burn out should look at the current run of results between Australia and England/GB.......SOO doesn't seem to damage the crims too much when they have to "back up"........and it does offer their best players games of real intensity and passion.
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| The concept is clearly too difficult for you.
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| I think we need to get away from this roses concept and maybe move to playing France and non UK super league select team.
Or if you are going to use the roses concept then a 2 game and a final
featuring
Lancs, Yorks, cumbria and super league select.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| nah....
england v other nationalities - 2 game series
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england 'A' v france then wales as curtain raisers to the games above
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| Quote: roughyedspud "nah....
england v other nationalities - 2 game series
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england 'A' v france then wales as curtain raisers to the games above'"
St George's day would be ideal for something like that, but I fear it's too early in the season.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| Quote: Catalancs "St George's day would be ideal for something like that, but I fear it's too early in the season.'"
game 1 - when we'd normally play france
game 2 - when the 4th round of the challenge cup is, super league clubs enter into the challenge cup in the 5th round, the 5th round made up of the 14 SL clubs plus the 2 surviving clubs from the previous round...
simples
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| Quote: dids858 "I think we need to get away from this roses concept and maybe move to playing France and non UK super league select team. '"
Why?
Why move away from a brand concept of several (hundered) years of history for something that has none? The whole point is to sell the game
Quote: dids858 "
Or if you are going to use the roses concept then a 2 game and a final
featuring
Lancs, Yorks, Cumbria and super league select.'"
Fine, but can we ditch the utterly, utterly meaningless "SL Select" as being meaningless, pointles and without any, well, point.
and just call it a tri-counties game.
Or replace Cumbria for an "other counties" team.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| but lancashire,yorkshire & cumbria does'nt fit in with the nationwide demographic the RFL is aiming for....does it!
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| No, but its a start in building for a competative England team to actually stand a chance of competing with Aus and NZ, and if we dont do that, we will never expand.
Without the media coverage that [isuccesseful[/i international competition gets, we will never, ever break our boundaries.
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| Quote: roughyedspud "game 1 - when we'd normally play france
game 2 - when the 4th round of the challenge cup is, super league clubs enter into the challenge cup in the 5th round, the 5th round made up of the 14 SL clubs plus the 2 surviving clubs from the previous round...
simples'"
Denying Championship, Championship 1 and possibly amateur sides a bumper pay day.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| Quote: Code13 "No, but its a start in building for a competative England team to actually stand a chance of competing with Aus and NZ, and if we dont do that, we will never expand.
Without the media coverage that [isuccesseful[/i international competition gets, we will never, ever break our boundaries.'"
we won't build a competitve england team by having lancashire,yorkshire and cumbria play each other
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| The problem England face is being the dominant force in a relatively weak hemisphere.
Despite all their failings, they are still way ahead of all the teams they could reasonably stage a mid-season international against. The Kiwis have had more regular meetings with the Aussies in mid-season, more of their players moving into the NRL through the Warriors and other NRL clubs, all of which goes to provide them with more exposure to higher intensity competition.
Whatever you do on a representative level in the Northern hemisphere, it's still going to be with players facing up to the same standard of player they oppose week in, week out in SL. The standard or intensity is not going to be any higher than your average club game.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| but having a team full of aussies & kiwis, ie the Other Nationalities, is'nt going to be the same level of intensity as a SL game is it...
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Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif "As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin
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| Quote: roughyedspud "but having a team full of aussies & kiwis, ie the Other Nationalities, is'nt going to be the same level of intensity as a SL game is it...'"
Where are those Aussies and Kiwis playing at the moment?
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| so your saying they are'nt capable of upping their intensity level once they come here??
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