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Quote: Fully "You can’t compare stats for McGillvary and Johnstone in terms of average gain and metres when one hasn’t played half a season, and the other scores lots of long range tries such as interceptions.

Johnstone is a good winger but totally unproven and I still don’t believe has done it consistently at the highest level. I also think his defence can be a bit suspect too.

And if he’s got to be in on one season then Eden deserves to be in too. Like Eden, Johnstone has got a good centre on his inside and that always helps.

Should be in the Knights squad for the Tour of PNG to see how he gets on there.'"

Tupou rarely gives him the ball, he scores in spite of his centre, and he's had two and a half good seasons thus far. Still if he plays for England, great, if he doesn't, great.

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Im being selfish here, but having a member of your team selected for a representative side does little for the teams supporters. Instead it brings the risks of injury or being poached by a wealthier club.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Tupou rarely gives him the ball, he scores in spite of his centre, and he's had two and a half good seasons thus far. Still if he plays for England, great, if he doesn't, great.'"


Tupou has 7 try assists so he must give the ball at some point and one would imagine, most of them are to Johnstone.

Anyway, he's got pace and that's his main asset and he's done well so far in his career. Next step is for Wakey to make a semi/final/the top 4 and from him to play for England Knights to truly see how far he can go.

8 of his tries have come against bottom 4 sides this season, with only 6 against top 4 sides so it suggests he's played better and had more opportunities unsurprisingly against average or below teams. I know that will probably the case for most wingers but we need a winger who can score at the top level if we're looking at replacements for Hall.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "You may want to look at Johnstones stats. If your using Macgillivray as an example of carrying out of def then you may be interested to know Tom is strong in that department. His avg gain and metres far more than macgillivray for example. If you say that it’s more important in how you carry in def then that’s one thing atoms great at and if it’s finishing chances from midfield then you can look at other stats which Tom also tops to know he can finish any half chance from anywhere on the field. Long, mid or short. If anything your strengthening toms inclusion there.

Tom has been in excellent form. And is on form the best winger in the comp. it’s ultimately Bennett’s choice as it should be but if players are picked on form this year Tom has a very good chance even over Macgillivray. But, with Macgillivray performance last internationals you can understand why he’d be given the shirt again. Besides, Tom plays on the left and macgillivray right I believe. I know this because Tom enjoyed running past Macgillivray a few times a month ago
I presume you mean the super 8's match in which McGillvary scored once and went off injured, in which Johnstone scored 2, 1 was a walk in after an overlap the other a long distance interception which saw him start in front of McG who wasn't involved in the chase, and not the other 3 meetings in which he didn't play in 2 of them and the one he did Jerry scored 3 tries down Johnstone's side !!

He's a good player and one for the future no doubt but he's not anywhere near the class of McGillvary, Hall or even Manfredi or Davies.
just because Wakefield fans think he's the best there is doesn't make it so.

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Quote: Alan Cargill "I presume you mean the super 8's match in which McGillvary scored once and went off injured, in which Johnstone scored 2, 1 was a walk in after an overlap the other a long distance interception which saw him start in front of McG who wasn't involved in the chase, and not the other 3 meetings in which he didn't play in 2 of them and the one he did Jerry scored 3 tries down Johnstone's side !!'"


icon_biggrin.gif don't you go bringing facts into it...

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Quote: Clearwing "

Huddersfield fans aren't too well known for facts.
If you listen to them, especially on the Kilner Bank, every pass from the opposition is forward, every tackle is foul play and their players never do anything wrong.
The most telling comment was "McGilvery not being involved in the chase" as he would have got nowhere near him and that no other player got near Johnstone.

He is not the same type of winger as Hall or McGilvery, who base a lot of their game on power but, Johnstone has pace and footwork that very few others possess. Yes, he is still learning his trade but, given that he's still 23, if he can remain fit, he should be in contention for Hall's left wing berth for England.
The guy is box office and there appears to be a fair amount of envy from the supporters of other clubs, which is great icon_biggrin.gif

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Fair enough, my jibe was a bit tongue in cheek icon_smile.gif

And it's deffo the case that Hall should be replaced sooner rather than later whether by Johnstone or someone else.

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If we're looking at facts ans stats then the comparisons are thusCarries (based on averages depending on games played)

McGillvary 266 (15.65)
Hall 337 (15.52)
Johnstone 311 (13.52)

Metres

Hall 2,961 (141.00)
McGillvary 2,175 (127.94)
Johnstone 2,925 (127.17)

Av.Gain

Johnstone 9.41
Hall 8.79
McGillvary 8.18

Errors

Johnstone 31 (1.35)
McGillvary 22 (1.29)
Hall 24 (1.14)

Pretty even between them all 3 of them in what i think are 3 key areas of wingers perfomance, obviously Johnstone has a lot more tries, as has been pointed out a lot of those are interceptions which he's very good at, which may also skew his average gain too as his yards are not as hard earned as the other 2.

Either way we are not desperate for wingers so when Hall and McGillvary aren't available any of the likes of Johnstone, Davies, Charnley etc would all do a decent job as cover.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Huddersfield fans aren't too well known for facts.
If you listen to them, especially on the Kilner Bank, every pass from the opposition is forward, every tackle is foul play and their players never do anything wrong.
The most telling comment was "McGilvery not being involved in the chase" as he would have got nowhere near him and that no other player got near Johnstone.

He is not the same type of winger as Hall or McGilvery, who base a lot of their game on power but, Johnstone has pace and footwork that very few others possess. Yes, he is still learning his trade but, given that he's still 23, if he can remain fit, he should be in contention for Hall's left wing berth for England.
The guy is box office and there appears to be a fair amount of envy from the supporters of other clubs, which is great
1. i'm not a Hudds fan
2. it was a wakefield fan, i presume he is, who said he'd run past Jerry, as there was no chase between them how can TJ have run past JMG?

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Quote: Clearwing "Fair enough, my jibe was a bit tongue in cheek
Agree, and at the moment TJ is probably just edging it, but depends what kind of winger the coach is looking for.

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Quote: Alan Cargill "If we're looking at facts ans stats then the comparisons are thusCarries (based on averages depending on games played)

McGillvary 266 (15.65)
Hall 337 (15.52)
Johnstone 311 (13.52)

Metres

Hall 2,961 (141.00)
McGillvary 2,175 (127.94)
Johnstone 2,925 (127.17)

Av.Gain

Johnstone 9.41
Hall 8.79
McGillvary 8.18

Errors

Johnstone 31 (1.35)
McGillvary 22 (1.29)
Hall 24 (1.14)

Pretty even between them all 3 of them in what i think are 3 key areas of wingers perfomance, obviously Johnstone has a lot more tries, as has been pointed out a lot of those are interceptions which he's very good at, which may also skew his average gain too as his yards are not as hard earned as the other 2.

Either way we are not desperate for wingers so when Hall and McGillvary aren't available any of the likes of Johnstone, Davies, Charnley etc would all do a decent job as cover.'"


Where do you get this from " as has been pointed out a lot of those are interceptions" and just how many is a lot because I've seen all of Trinity's games this season and can remember 2. icon_eek.gif

As you say, England are not short of options but, assuming he's fit, Johnstone should get his chance sooner rather than later and lets see if he can cut it at International level as clearly, it would be a step up for the lad.

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Quote: Clearwing "Fair enough, my jibe was a bit tongue in cheek
What if Hall goes really well in Australia in the next 2 seasons?

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Can't believe there is all this speculation over the most settled and strongest position in the England team. Ah yes its another Trinity 'Are we a big club?' Thread. The answer is still no, it's embarassing that your posters feel the need to open discussions on every player you have that is any good, or after a few wins in superleague.

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Quote: Hangerman2 "Can't believe there is all this speculation over the most settled and strongest position in the England team. Ah yes its another Trinity 'Are we a big club?' Thread. The answer is still no, it's embarassing that your posters feel the need to open discussions on every player you have that is any good, or after a few wins in superleague.'"

Indeed the VT is bursting full of such threads.

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Or alternatively, fans could be pleased that positive discussion is being had outside the same old boring 3/4 clubs. Anyone would think people don’t want strong clubs throughout SL.
It was the same, & still is to some extent, when Powell changed the fortunes of Cas (don’t think we don’t know you’re waiting hopefully we’ll return to the bottom half of the league)!

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