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| Quote: dally messenger "i wouldnt put them ahead of toulose but if the financial backing is there for Paris then the RFL have to increase the number of teams in SL to 16, and thats assuming an existing SL club gets kicked out for widnes.'"
Looking at the Nosey Parker column in the League Weekly, it seems that the Stade Francais consortium are willing to be self financing and are not looking for any SL TV monies. If they can guarantee that, the RFL will be stupid to ignore it (given their love of expansion).
The RFL could justify the inclusion of Stade Francais by expanding the league to 15, which would cost them nothing to do. All the other clubs in SL wouldn’t lose a penny as a result, and no-ones SL place will have been lost as a result. The RFL get another French club with no cost – and a prestigious one at that. They could, potentially, be one of the wealthiest clubs in SL if their backers are as good as they seem to be. Poor old Carlos Zalduendo, and his club cannot match that.
So they would be less risky than Toulouse, who would require TV money and would need to hit the ground running, otherwise they could end up struggling financially like the Celtic Crusaders last season.
If this situation is as good as it appears – and that’s a very big [size if [/size– then it looks likely there’ll be a club based in Paris after 2011 in Super League. If Stade Francais get the go-ahead, they will have 2 years to prepare. This seems to be a very different situation from the usual ramshackle expansion clubs that lunge from one financial disaster to another. This offer looks like an RFL wet dream. This could be the real deal.  |
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| Quote: Pepe "Looking at the Nosey Parker column in the League Weekly, it seems that the Stade Francais consortium are willing to be self financing and are not looking for any SL TV monies. If they can guarantee that, the RFL will be stupid to ignore it (given their love of expansion).
The RFL could justify the inclusion of Stade Francais by expanding the league to 15, which would cost them nothing to do. All the other clubs in SL wouldn’t lose a penny as a result, and no-ones SL place will have been lost as a result. The RFL get another French club with no cost – and a prestigious one at that. They could, potentially, be one of the wealthiest clubs in SL if their backers are as good as they seem to be. Poor old Carlos Zalduendo, and his club cannot match that.
So they would be less risky than Toulouse, who would require TV money and would need to hit the ground running, otherwise they could end up struggling financially like the Celtic Crusaders last season.
If this situation is as good as it appears – and that’s a very big [sizeif [/size– then it looks likely there’ll be a club based in Paris after 2011 in Super League. If Stade Francais get the go-ahead, they will have 2 years to prepare. This seems to be a very different situation from the usual ramshackle expansion clubs that lunge from one financial disaster to another. This offer looks like an RFL wet dream. This could be the real deal. ![]()
As long as they dump the Magic weekend
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| Quote: littlerich "So instead of admitting you were wrong for making a dumbass statement you come back with a sweeping generalised statement like that and a stupid smiley. I don't decry Toulouse and if you actually bother to read certain other people's posts (whom i assume you also perceieve to be flatcappers) most actually don't decry them either. It's your perceptions that are rabid and unfounded. I'm going to call you a kn[iobhea[/id again too because you deserve it.
Kno[ibhe[/iad.'"
i argue les cats are an expansion club.
but if idiots like you want to call them a heartland club then ill put it back on you and ask why people like you arent fans of the inclusion of toulose since they also must be a heartland club on the same dumb logic. |
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "You would think that Toulouse will be the next French side in Superleague. The fast tracking of a Paris franchise team would be a serious double standard given the amount of hoops toulouse have had to jump through. I also can't see them having the time to build a team in time to fulfil the 2015 criteria via the Championship.
On the other hand Paris team should not be rejected out of hand. To have a sports team that is itself a successful expansion side behind the bid can only be good.'"
just put them both in SL if their bids are strong enough.
especially if 3 french SL teams means a paying TV contract from a French TV station to cover the costs of these extra teams |
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| Quote: Pepe "Looking at the Nosey Parker column in the League Weekly, it seems that the Stade Francais consortium are willing to be self financing and are not looking for any SL TV monies. If they can guarantee that, the RFL will be stupid to ignore it (given their love of expansion).
The RFL could justify the inclusion of Stade Francais by expanding the league to 15, which would cost them nothing to do. All the other clubs in SL wouldn’t lose a penny as a result, and no-ones SL place will have been lost as a result. The RFL get another French club with no cost – and a prestigious one at that. They could, potentially, be one of the wealthiest clubs in SL if their backers are as good as they seem to be. Poor old Carlos Zalduendo, and his club cannot match that.
So they would be less risky than Toulouse, who would require TV money and would need to hit the ground running, otherwise they could end up struggling financially like the Celtic Crusaders last season.
If this situation is as good as it appears – and that’s a very big [sizeif [/size– then it looks likely there’ll be a club based in Paris after 2011 in Super League. If Stade Francais get the go-ahead, they will have 2 years to prepare. This seems to be a very different situation from the usual ramshackle expansion clubs that lunge from one financial disaster to another. This offer looks like an RFL wet dream. This could be the real deal. ![]()
good logic but why have a bye each week and have a club lose home gates? taking it to 16 by having the RFL fund one more team shouldnt be too hard, especially as toulose look like having a very good bid as well.
of course salford and wakeys SL spots are certainly up for grabs as well.
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[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
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with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
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| Quote: dally messenger "good logic but why have a bye each week and have a club lose home gates?'"
Byes probably wouldn't affect SL clubs the same way it has many Championship clubs. The RFL have already stated that they'd be prepared to go to 15 clubs, if there is no club worthy of demoting, in order to accomidate the promised Championship club. So I would assume they've thought it through. yeah, good argument |
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That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "the bit about P+R
So clubs in the championship do have more full time players,
so thats one less reason against having Toulouse in the championship in the first place isnt it
relative to what?
in General Championship clubs are poor compared to SL clubs but rich compared to Championship one clubs,
you mean contracts that could have been broken by a stipulation almost universally in SL contracts that they are cancelled on relegation?
or are we rewarding Salford for not being professional enough to prepare for this eventuality? as we would have done Leigh?
imagine your outcry if they didnt
how the f'ck is other clubs not being able to afford an away trip to Toulouse possibly one of Toulouse's failings ![]()
Absolute garbage is the only way to describe these posts , you ignore the points on some , pretend that one club having 1/2 extra full time players makes any sort of difference in another , suggest that clubs in one league are richer than other when all are not anywhere near being close to being described as ' Rich ' , in fact 2 clubs this year have gone bust in the higher league , total rubbish
Give up while you still can
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| Quote: JB Down Under "really? I'd say HKR and Les Cats having worked there way up over a number of years have been more succesful than the likes of Quins and Crusaders (so far) and before them Paris & Gateshead.'"
not one of those clubs has started from nothing and built themselves through the leagues, as is bottom up expansion
in fact only one club in the last 90 years has come from amateur to semi-pro and they are still quite abit away from pro, and it woudl still be a huge jump whenever/if they ever make it |
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| Quote: belgianxiii "Paris cashed up, that's a very big IF, and even with the cash they need the players
toulouse arent going to produce a team of SL players outside SL and les catalans arent going to produce two
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| Quote: Starbug "Absolute garbage is the only way to describe these posts , you ignore the points on some , pretend that one club having 1/2 extra full time players makes any sort of difference in another , suggest that clubs in one league are richer than other when all are not anywhere near being close to being described as ' Rich ' , in fact 2 clubs this year have gone bust in the higher league , total rubbish
Give up while you still can'"
ok we should put Toulouse in championship 1,
there would be huge advantages and benefits to everyone |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "ok we should put Toulouse in championship,
there would be huge advantages and benefits to everyone'"
But toulouse are already in the Championship, is the West Yorkshire smog addling your brain?  |
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