And where do you think the motivation came from to make those official complaints? It's obviously been proven that the rumours weren't without foundation and if anything didn't even begin to tell the full story!

Personally we can go around in circles talking about this but I think the time frame involved suggests the (correct) speculation of some of the fans had little to do with it in the end.

Like the RFL would have ever allowed Wigan to be relegated?

There's nowt as paranoid as an RL fan.

You tell 'em tb! Tell 'em it's like Castleford's "new stadium" bollax that was put out in 2008. Paranoid speculation. Fact it with bricks and mortar. It's not happened till we've seen it with thine own eyes!!!!!

RLFans reminds me so much of the classic Python sketch where Michael Palin comes in and pays John Cleese £5 for a ten minute argument.

I reckon they most likely came from disgruntled ex-employees tipping off the RFL.

If you really think rumours amongst fans are the reason the RFL investigate things, they'd never have a spare minute.

The vast majority of people on this messageboard can't put their personal feelings aside to make an intelligent and logical judgement. If they could, there wouldn't be so many people making illogical comments about the RFL (who everyone apparently doesn't like) not giving Wigan (who again apparently everyone doesn't like) the same punishment, despite the fact that they initially did (6 points) and everything after Wigan didn't do!

Some people need to get a grip, put different clubs who you have no animosity towards in the situation and then think about it.

It is worth saying that although people think that the RFL love Wigan, when we got the points deduction, the RFL had to create a new offence, breaking the "Spirit of the cap".

I reckon it shows the RFL's lack of control in running this game of ours. They have a habit of letting things simmer and get worse before they actually do anything.
We have a so called "live salary cap" with regular audits was this properly applied during Barrows 2007 to 2009 season. Even Barrow Fans were questioning how they had such a formidable team under the expenditure controls.
Other examples are London Broncos, Crusaders, Franchise in Cas and Wak grounds.etc.
So who was the whistleblower in Barrows case was it an ex player, because I can't see the RFL letting the situation simmer for 4 seasons.

I think catic had a lot to say in the last few months although I don't know when the rfl investigation began.

Don't be daft. The RFL only investigated because the fans were speculating.
They're off to check out Warrington next. After all, they MUST be cheating the salary cap according to RL fans.

No it doesn't.

No animosity from me towards Wigan or Barrow, but I think it's a valid point above that there is supposed to be a 'live' salary cap yet these offences went undetected for so long - if the fans knew what was going on (ask yourself why Barrow fans were questioning their own ability to stay within the cap?) then why did it take such a period of time for the offences to be punished, particularly as Barrow won the league during the disputed time frame?

As for comparisons to Warrington, I think that's a completely different situation as they aren't paying players to a) drop down a league and b) potentially move to a different area of the country on a £300k salary cap.

Same applies to us Matt , a supposed ' live ' salary cap , and yet it took them 8 months to punish us , this was down purely to Catic's whistle blowing , I'm sure his former team mates will be happy with him , they will have the inland revenue chasing them , while he sits in Oz having still had his money