Poor, poor troll.

I did think it quite ironic that the 2 guys they interviewed, moaning about Waring reinforcing Northern stereotypes were 2 caricatures themselves, looking like they'd just stepped out of Last of the Summer Wine or Emmerdale/Corrie.

...especially the one who appeared to be missing a load of teeth.

Like him or loath him, the Eddie Waring documentary was very good. And everyone was an expert or an eyewitness, not a talking head going "Oh, I remember It's A Knockout", which was refreshing.

......but they are not the ones who would be appearing as BBC commentators. Waring clearly was an RL man through-and-through, but he was always a poor commentator, as could be heard from the Leeds v Saints cup final. As an example, just after Leeds pulled back to 10-5 '[iBoth teams now will change their tactics[/i' states Eddie, with the verbal authority of the Pope reciting the Hail Mary???!!! What was he going on about??

Once he started doing It's a Knockout the game was up. He and the BBC did the game a continuing disservice by keeping him on.

I have to say that I didn't like Eddie Waring as a RL commentator and back in the 70s and 80s I would have been one of the ones being most critical of him however my dad and uncle knew him and always spoke well of him, they knew his background and they had a lot of respect for him.

Likewise I have been one of Ray French's critics for many years, but I have met him too and spent an evening in his company and I have a lot of respect for him as a person and as a journalist too.

They both tread very similar paths, writing about the game very well, being very knowledgeable about the game, but given to verbal confusion when live on TV - its obviously the job rather than the man.

Enjoyed Laurie Gant's "coaching" of Fev!!!

Top notch stuff.

It's a wonder how the Aussies ever beat us with such methods and yet somethings never change

One thing I've noticedd about "coaching" then as now , is the limited use of an actual ball and when used it is to create some nice pretty patterns to pass the ball in a way that would never usually be seen in a match!

Marvellous experience it was!

Best left to the Clive Tyldesley's and Jon Champion's of this world then.

Watching the Leeds vs St Helens game now as Sky+ it. Man if that is what contested scrums were like then I dont want to see them back in Rugby League. Very messy!!

Some of the play-the-balls were shocking also!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgs85qiXDNQ&NR=1 (Pt I) www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXfEbOrO ... re=related (Pt 2) The second documentary in two parts on youtube for those outside the UK.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgs85qiXDNQ&NR=1 (Pt I) www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXfEbOrO ... re=related (Pt 2) The second documentary in two parts on youtube for those outside the UK.

Things don't change much

Eddie Waring doc is repeated again at the weekend for those who missed it the first time around.

Did you really need to dredge up a thread from a year ago though? Just read through this wondering why everyone was talking about stuff that hadn't been on yet, before spotting the date!

You could instead have dredged up the thread I posted only a few days ago, which mentioned not only the EW documentary, but also the ESPN Classic re-runs of 4 CC finals, which should please at least one previous poster to this topic!

yes as not everyone has ESPN classic. So would not have read your post. As you can see by the zero replies you have had.

I agree totally. He cut a very sad figure.