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Quote: GIANT DAZ "not to me he aint thats why i was asking about his pedigree.........only union players i know are Wilkinson and that dallgio(sp?) bloke ....... as well as the league converts'"


You ought to try reading national newspapers. Or seeing as you are from Huddersfield, get someone to read them to you.

You might be surprised by this, but the sporting world doesnt cease to exist beyond Yorkshire and Lancashire.

Ps Gordon Brown is the current Prime Minister, Ford now do cars in other colours than black and small children are no longer put to work down the mines.

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Very queer signing this if it comes off as he's 35 d040.gif

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Quote: Iolo "You ought to try reading national newspapers. Or seeing as you are from Huddersfield, get someone to read them to you.

You might be surprised by this, but the sporting world doesnt cease to exist beyond Yorkshire and Lancashire.

Ps Gordon Brown is the current Prime Minister, Ford now do cars in other colours than black and small children are no longer put to work down the mines.'"


Is there a need to get insulting because someone has stated they don't know who someone is? I cannot at any point remember the poster claiming sport, or indeed life doesn't exist beyond the M62. He merely indicated he had no interest. I know plenty of people who would probably respond the same way when asked to name a Welsh Union player, yet their knowledge and understanding of the wider world and other cultures is vast - where it is of interest to them.

Further to that, I don't understand why you extend that to insulting an entire region. It is hardly what I'd consider a method for endearing people to your cause. Just over a decade ago, I shared a house at Uni with a lad from Pontypridd who had never eaten rice, and considered pizza exotic. He seemed to think that all English people were oppressors of his people, largely on the basis that Thatcher had closed down the pits in South Wales, having no understanding of the fact much the same devastation had occured on a grander scale in the Yorkshire coalfields. I neither held it against him, appreciating as I did that ingorance of some issues did not equate to general stupidity, nor did I generalise to assume all Welsh people were backward illiterates.

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Iolo wrote. You must be confusing me with jannerboyuk, [...] he is also crucrusaders and I strongly suspect he is traffic as well. Iolo. My mum is dead actually Thanks for that Scooter Nik. Yeah right. Of course she is, probably turned up her toes in disgust at having spawned a prat like you:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44411.png



Quote: Rommel "Very queer signing this if it comes off as he's 35 Very interesting phrase to use! Seeing as he became the first pro rugby player to become openly gay a few months back.

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Quote: bloomers "Is there a need to get insulting because someone has stated they don't know who someone is? I cannot at any point remember the poster claiming sport, or indeed life doesn't exist beyond the M62. He merely indicated he had no interest. I know plenty of people who would probably respond the same way when asked to name a Welsh Union player, yet their knowledge and understanding of the wider world and other cultures is vast - where it is of interest to them.

Further to that, I don't understand why you extend that to insulting an entire region. It is hardly what I'd consider a method for endearing people to your cause. Just over a decade ago, I shared a house at Uni with a lad from Pontypridd who had never eaten rice, and considered pizza exotic. He seemed to think that all English people were oppressors of his people, largely on the basis that Thatcher had closed down the pits in South Wales, having no understanding of the fact much the same devastation had occured on a grander scale in the Yorkshire coalfields. I neither held it against him, appreciating as I did that ingorance of some issues did not equate to general stupidity, nor did I generalise to assume all Welsh people were backward illiterates.'"


'Endearing people to my cause'???!!

I'm a Rugby Fan from Mid Wales, not Che Guevara eusa_clap.gif

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Iolo wrote. You must be confusing me with jannerboyuk, [...] he is also crucrusaders and I strongly suspect he is traffic as well. Iolo. My mum is dead actually Thanks for that Scooter Nik. Yeah right. Of course she is, probably turned up her toes in disgust at having spawned a prat like you:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44411.png



Quote: GIANT DAZ "it says he is 35 so would that be like David Beckham signing for Sheffield Wednesday in football terms cos Farrell was at the peak of his career at the time he left to play that other sport, surely at 35 this guy cant have a lot game wise to offer any club at any level?

is 35 old or what for a Union player ??'"


in a word yes there are a few pro players older but. Not many at international level to go much past 33/34 is unusual. However in the league not especially in the championship graham Dawe still turns out for plymouh and he must be nearly 50!

Farrell should have stayed in rl! He was to slow to be an ru centre and left it too late to learn to play flanker.

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Quote: chubbs1981 "Very interesting phrase to use! Seeing as he became the first pro rugby player to become openly gay a few months back.'"


Ian Roberts in 1995

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Quote: Iolo "Rugby League and Rugby Union aren't that different really are they?! No line outs, 2 players less and only 4 points for a try are the fundamental differences. The ball is the same shape and the idea in both codes is to score tries as someone else on the thread said.'"


Is it though? Really? I don' t think RU fans can really have much justification for saying this. I think it's more a case of getting into territory and then seeing if they can't get some points. The majority of time this comes from the boot. The only time a team really goes for the try is when they are behind on the score board by so many points that it's their only hope. Most teams, if trailing by 6 points with 2 minutes to go, would still kick a penalty and hope there is still time for a drop goal rather than go for the try that could WIN the game for them.

Quote: Iolo "I suppose you could say Rugby League is just kick, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, kick if you wanted to be really pedantic about it.'"


It's not being pedantic, it's simplifying it. But you'll notice that even in this simplified model the ball is always in play. As we all know there are any number of exciting things that MIGHT occur in any game - RL, RU, Football etc - but none of them occur when the ball is out of play. Until RU sorts that element out RL will always have the edge on sudden unpredictable events.

Back to the topic, I'm sure that in some way - either on or off the field - Gareth Thomas would be good for the Crusaders. He might not have much of a career ahead of him but he could raise the profile enough for others to switch codes and once you have recognised names playing - I'm sure participation levels will increase as well. Surely the whole point of this venture is that there is more to it than simply the player and his ability. Otherwise who would offer a contract to a 36 year old RU player? Good luck to him and the Crusaders if it does happen.

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Iolo wrote. You must be confusing me with jannerboyuk, [...] he is also crucrusaders and I strongly suspect he is traffic as well. Iolo. My mum is dead actually Thanks for that Scooter Nik. Yeah right. Of course she is, probably turned up her toes in disgust at having spawned a prat like you:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44411.png



Quote: GiantJo "Ian Roberts in 1995'"

I'm not old enough to remember that but I stand corrected old father time a014.gif however he is the only current player.

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Quote: aspouea "Is it though? Really? I don' t think RU fans can really have much justification for saying this. I think it's more a case of getting into territory and then seeing if they can't get some points. The majority of time this comes from the boot. The only time a team really goes for the try is when they are behind on the score board by so many points that it's their only hope. Most teams, if trailing by 6 points with 2 minutes to go, would still kick a penalty and hope there is still time for a drop goal rather than go for the try that could WIN the game for them.

It's not being pedantic, it's simplifying it. But you'll notice that even in this simplified model the ball is always in play. As we all know there are any number of exciting things that MIGHT occur in any game - RL, RU, Football etc - but none of them occur when the ball is out of play. Until RU sorts that element out RL will always have the edge on sudden unpredictable events.

Back to the topic, I'm sure that in some way - either on or off the field - Gareth Thomas would be good for the Crusaders. He might not have much of a career ahead of him but he could raise the profile enough for others to switch codes and once you have recognised names playing - I'm sure participation levels will increase as well. Surely the whole point of this venture is that there is more to it than simply the player and his ability. Otherwise who would offer a contract to a 36 year old RU player? Good luck to him and the Crusaders if it does happen.'"



I prefer Rugby League, but I do enjoy playing and watching Union as well, as do many others.

I personally would like to see one point for a drop kick/field goal (whatever you want to call it) in Union rather than the 3 you currently get.

This would hopefully put more emphasis on teams trying to score tries.


I cant see Thomas joining Crusaders, he is a South Wales man through and through. He is more likely to stay with Cardiff Blues in a coaching role rather than swap codes and move up north.

I think he would be good for RL if he did change though.

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Iolo wrote. You must be confusing me with jannerboyuk, [...] he is also crucrusaders and I strongly suspect he is traffic as well. Iolo. My mum is dead actually Thanks for that Scooter Nik. Yeah right. Of course she is, probably turned up her toes in disgust at having spawned a prat like you:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44411.png



I prefered playing union back in the day when u could put the boot in on guys laying on the ball! Now guys dont make the effort to move and it slows the rucks down so much there is usually little option but to kick! RL is much better to watch! I think if he goes to crusaders it'll be player coach play a bi and help out the u18's or something.

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Quote: Rommel "Very queer signing this if it comes off as he's 35
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Quote: SimonBarrett "Some people are unbelievable!!!

Open your eyes and see the bigger picture!! Would Gareth be a success at RL.......Answer


exactly right. In a country practically governed by rugby union, the national captain converts to rugby league. for rugby league in wales this is a major coup.

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Quote: Iolo "You ought to try reading national newspapers. Or seeing as you are from Huddersfield, get someone to read them to you.

You might be surprised by this, but the sporting world doesnt cease to exist beyond Yorkshire and Lancashire.

Ps Gordon Brown is the current Prime Minister, Ford now do cars in other colours than black and small children are no longer put to work down the mines.'"



Erm where have i said anything untoward about you, your country or the sport ?? i was merely, as a RL fan wanting to know how big a signing this would be in my preferred sport.
I have not claimed that the sporting world doesn't exist beyong the M62 corridor i stated i have no interest in Rugby Union be it in Wales, Yorkshire or Chinese Taipei !!.
If you choose to take that personally or as an opinion of my intellect then you do so, if you cant answer my queries on this subject in a civilised manner leave my posts alone and let someone who is willing to answer them sensibly do so !

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"The Mail understands..." NOTHING! :SUBMISSION: :lol: [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]Respect to Roofs, the president of East Hull. :wink:[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17371.jpg



Quote: Iolo "You English Rugby League fans who 'claim' to never have heard of Alfie ought to try picking up a newspaper or venturing further than T' Woolpack in 'Otten'

'Alfie' Thomas is Wales most capped player with 100 appearances, ninth in the all-time international tryscoring list, A British and Irish Lion and a great RUGBY player.

He is almost 36 but if he did come to the Crusaders (which I doubt personally) he would be a big hit.

Rugby League and Rugby Union aren't that different really are they?! No line outs, 2 players less and only 4 points for a try are the fundamental differences. The ball is the same shape and the idea in both codes is to score tries as someone else on the thread said.

I personally like both codes (and have played both) but you one eyed blinkered League fans (and I know that doesnt include everyone on this board) should realise there is more to Union than just kicking the ball into the crowd

I suppose you could say Rugby League is just kick, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, Tackle, kick if you wanted to be really pedantic about it.

Its unlikely Alfie will come to the Crusaders, same as it was always unlikely Gavin Henson would. But if he did I would wholeheartedly support him and I reckon he would be great for the club.

Maybe if the club had remained in South Wales, but not now.'"


Dale Earnhardt is a household name in Nascar racing, but few people will have heard of him on here (same principle). icon_wink.gif

End of the day it's a simple publicity stunt designed to try and drum up some interest in a doomed franchise. icon_twisted.gif icon_smile.gif

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