to me tomkins and crabtree both need to be in the 17, we need a forward who can offload and a halfback who can make a break for me the team would be

1- eastmond
2-hall
3-bridge
4-ellis
5-fox
6-mcguire
7-tomkins
8-graham
9-roby
10-peacock
11-burgess
12-wilkin
13-sinfield
14- crabtree
15-moore
16-morley
17- carvell

1. briscoe
2. briscoe
3. smith
4. shenton
5. hall
6. tomkins
7. myler
8. peacock
9. roby
10. graham
11. ellis
12. burgess
13. sinfield

14. morley
15. carvell
16. westwood
17. mcguire

Whoever we play we are going to get stuffed. We are all doomed I tell you

1 - Shaun Briscoe
2 - Fox
3 - Bridge
4 - Smith
5 - Hall
6 - Tomkins
7 - Myler
8 - Morley
9 - Diskin
10 - Peacock
11 - Ellis
12 - Burgess
13 - Sinfield

14 - Graham
15 - Carvell
16 - Roby
17 - Westwood

I believe that we should try out the young half backs, we may aswell give it a go because McGuire wasn't great yesterday. Diskin should start with Roby on the bench because Moore also had a shocker. We needed 2 props on the bench as the Aussie props are much bigger (and better for that matter).

The back are all too small. There is no size at all apart from Hall. The majority of Aussie and NZ backs are enormous freaks of nature.

We don't bring those types into the game in this country.

Smith
Fox
Briscoe
Ellis
Hall

McGuire
Tomkins

Graham
Roby
Morley

Peacock
Wilkin
Sinfield

Carvell
Westwood
Eastmond
Burgess

Biff and spoiling. That's GB's *only* chance. It's still only a small chance, but we definitely can't get into a skills competition. Load up the team with bruisers, psyche them up and get right at them. It'll be a much better spectacle too

1. Briscoe-throwing Eastmond in at fb would be suicide for England and him)

2. Fox-not because Briscoe has done anything wrong but Fox has the edge on size and speed
3. Ellis- basically because i don't want Lee Smith in and because he would help in atempting to contain the centres
4. Eastmond
5. Hall

6.Sinfield
7. Myler

8.Morley
9.Roby-Thought Moore had a bit of a nightmare
10.Graham

11.Peacock
12.Wilkin
13.Burgess

14.Crabtree
15.Carvell
16.Westwood
17.Moore

FB Briscoe, shaun - As good as anyone we have for this position
W Fox - As good as anyone we have for this position
C Ellis - we have the fwds avail to put ellis here
C Smith, Lee - is off to union, but you have to ask..whos better?
W Hall - As good as anyone we have for this position
SO Brough - hard/good long and short kicking game/ tackles/ rattles cages/takes teams on
SH Tomkins - you have to give him a shot on his performances at club level so far
P Morley - As good as anyone we have for this position
H Roby - good enough
P Peacock - good enough
SR Mason - As good as anyone we have for this position - wont take a backwards step - easily hudds stand out fwd all yr
SR Wilkin - good enough
LF Burgess - good enough

S Eastmond
S Carvell
S Crabtree
S Graham

Why are people picking players who haven't been included in the 24-MAN SQUAD?

Mason and Wilkin second row, WTF

probably because they realise the ones in there ain't good enough

Tonight really emphasised how much we need a quality kicker. It really does make 20 or 30 yards difference in every set of 6. It is just a pity that none of our players have a good kicking game. Brough is the only one that really springs to mind and he isnt going to get picked.

Watch the grand final and say there are no british players with a good kicking game

There are no British players with a kicking game.

Oh I forgot you are a Leeds fan and all Leeds players are perfect (This has been a common theme on all England threads over the past few weeks).