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How blinkered are you?

Your beloved Leeds team would be fine in either scenario...probably more so if we scrapped the salary cap...but then you'd revert back to how it was 5 - 10 years ago...with an even wider gap between the big guns and the other teams....now that truly would be boring!!

I'd absolutley love to see a GF that didn't involved Leeds or Saints...but until the other teams can build a core of good players that keep beneath the salary cap regularly then it won't happen.

There is no way in any perception you look at it that we're better off having an overseas player in for an English player. No way. Your argument is that we were embarrassed in the World Cup and can't win anything other than a one off test...but we need time to develop the next core group of English players that will match the Southern Hemisphere on a regular basis. Tony Smith hit the nail on the head when he stated we need tougher matches otherwise we'll always get smashed by NZ and Aus.

The fundamental problem for Super League is that the majority of the best English players are with Saints or Leeds...times are changing now, but it'll take time before the other teams have a fair enough share of the player talent. But bringing in more quality Aussies or Kiwi's will do nothing but damage our national team...however it may get a couple more bums on seats at the GF.

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Quote: Hear Ye! "How blinkered are you?

Your beloved Leeds team would be fine in either scenario...probably more so if we scrapped the salary cap...but then you'd revert back to how it was 5 - 10 years ago...with an even wider gap between the big guns and the other teams....now that truly would be boring!!

I'd absolutley love to see a GF that didn't involved Leeds or Saints...but until the other teams can build a core of good players that keep beneath the salary cap regularly then it won't happen.

There is no way in any perception you look at it that we're better off having an overseas player in for an English player. No way. Your argument is that we were embarrassed in the World Cup and can't win anything other than a one off test...but we need time to develop the next core group of English players that will match the Southern Hemisphere on a regular basis. Tony Smith hit the nail on the head when he stated we need tougher matches otherwise we'll always get smashed by NZ and Aus.

The fundamental problem for Super League is that the majority of the best English players are with Saints or Leeds...times are changing now, but it'll take time before the other teams have a fair enough share of the player talent. But bringing in more quality Aussies or Kiwi's will do nothing but damage our national team...however it may get a couple more bums on seats at the GF.'"


to be honest i don't care one bit for international rugby, all you hear is 'imports are damaging our international game' ???
International Rugby League is a joke anyway lets just concentrate on the league and if you're good enough you'll get in the team the quota system is fine as it is

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The international game is a joke because we can't compete...and I'd say the majority of people do care about the national team. I agree the quota system is fine now, as it focuses on clubs bringing youth through and the fact we did away with relegation gives these players a chance to prove they are quality.

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Why do we expect the media to take SL seriously when the vast majority of it is clearly a pre-season tournament for the playoffs at the end?

They can just cover the playoffs and be done with it.

In the football Premier League, every single Man Utd victory or defeat had serious implications for the season. Every time Liverpool won or Man Utd dropped points, it was something to talk about, something to speculate on, something exicting.

Even though the final result was predictable.

Furthermore, even when the title chase had finished, we still had the excitement of the final day watching to see who'd be relegated.

In SL, everyone knows that Leeds can just keep pulling out the medicre performances, it being irrelevent whether they catch Saints at the end. The 8 team playoff system is a cheap mechanism to make money/ create excitement with the lack of relegation.

I don't care if tb thinks that the 'playoffs are traditional'. The way they are currently set up is an absolute joke. It needs to be top 5 at most, and the league leaders should qualify directly for the final, with the others going straight into semis.

If you finish second, you can't complain; you should've finished first. And I'm a Leeds fan.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Declaration...are you saying that the Leeds performance on Saturday was mediocre icon_eek.gif ...jesus wept! god help everyone else when you really play well icon_cool.gif
To answer the original poster......I am delighted with SL. Quins sitting 5th, even after getting tonked by Leeds, with 3 less points than the last two seasons total and 10 games to go. Our team is shaping up pretty nicely and the young London lads are coming through.
Apart from Saints and Leeds (and let's face it, they both have pretty fantastic youth development programmes) other clubs like Wigan, Wire and Bradford are being left behind, whilst clubs like mine and teams like Castleford are reaping the rewards of not going for broke, but simply "building" a team within our budgets.

As for those who carry on moaning about relegation...get over it. If the frogs had been let go in their first year they would have folded. As it is, 3 years later and we are all gushing about the great even t in Spain last weekend and hoping we can have a spanish magic weekend........make your friggin minds up.
Lastly, if anyone here thinks any player at their club gives less than 100% every time they walk on the park then they need their heads looking at. This is the most brutal of sports and we pay to watch men knock lumps out of each other. I have never seen a "dead rubber" of a game. Just because Bradford v Celtic is a nothing game because they can't make the play offs doesn't mean that the players won't try their hardest.

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Quote: gutterfax "Declaration...are you saying that the Leeds performance on Saturday was mediocre
IMO to make Super League better we need a more traditional approach. icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif icon_twisted.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Roofs "IMO to make Super League better we need a more traditional approach.
now where did i leave that flat cap icon_wink.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Roofs "IMO to make Super League better we need a more traditional approach.
Yep. And beer should be 1p a pint! Progress my @rse icon_cool.gif

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Quote: Diavolo Rosso "Huddersfield.



That's another sign all is not well. Union has gone from being behind us to being well in front without any real improvement in the entertainment on offer. They sold out the Millenium Stadium and Crowe Park for two semi-finals ... it has been a few years since we sold out Old Trafford for the Grand Final.'"


Clearly you do not know much about the Giants. never mind

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Quote: Roofs "IMO to make Super League better we need a more traditional approach.
Play-offs to decide the title? And no relegation from the professional league into a separate league run on a part-time basis? That's pretty traditional. In fact, it's wholly traditional.

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"The Mail understands..." NOTHING! :SUBMISSION: :lol: [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]Respect to Roofs, the president of East Hull. :wink:[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17371.jpg



Quote: tb "Play-offs to decide the title? And no relegation from the professional league into a separate league run on a part-time basis? That's pretty traditional. In fact, it's wholly traditional.'"


Was just an immature dig at Quins. icon_wink.gif icon_surprised.gifops: icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "This years World Club Challenge for me was the biggest wake up call I’ve ever had. I though my Leeds Rhinos should become the third team to compete in the state of origin at one point.'"


Leeds to compete with NSW and Queensland? That is the most pathetic comment i have ever heard.

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Quote: Jeffersonthetiger "Leeds to compete with NSW and Queensland? That is the most pathetic comment i have ever heard.'"


if they played like they did at Quins then they could easily compete

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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "if they played like they did at Quins then they could easily compete'"


Now this comment is even more pathetic.

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"The Mail understands..." NOTHING! :SUBMISSION: :lol: [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]Respect to Roofs, the president of East Hull. :wink:[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17371.jpg



Quote: Jeffersonthetiger "Leeds to compete with NSW and Queensland? That is the most pathetic comment i have ever heard.'"


Wouldn't say pathetic, just confusing. icon_confused.gif icon_lol.gif

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