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Only just seen this post but yeah, as a Widnes fan it’s very very worrying. Every home game you can see the dramatic decline in home fans attending, 500-1000 at a time in some cases

As mentioned the owners and management have been so fixated on bringing through academy players (cheaper option) and balancing the books, they’ve forgot the number one goal which is the first team. When your first team is as bad as ours is now, fans won’t turn up week in week out. Only way they’re coming back is with drastic change which isn’t on the horizon anytime soon.

Ticking time bomb heading straight for the championship.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



An attendance comparison thread between Wakefield, Widnes, Salford and Huddersfield is like a cock measuring contest between unich's ......

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Quote: easyWire "Wondered why he’d not played for a while. Can we have him at Warrington then?'"


He isn’t going to stay at Widnes long the way he’s being treated. Genuinely think he could pick his team to play for

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Quote: Willzay "Ive said for ages that RL has the cheapest fan base. The amount of people asking for cut price deals for internationals year in year out is embarrassing.'"

Are there any discount codes for the England v New Zealand test series yet?

To be honest I think lots of people ask this question because there often are discounted tickets available, no point paying full price if you don’t have to.

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I think that attendance showed that despite what their fans say, Leeds are not as big a draw that they think they are.

Had Widnes been playing Wigan, St Helens or Warrington there would have been a much higher attendance, and that's not just down to locality.

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Quote: JonnoTheGreat "I think that attendance showed that despite what their fans say, Leeds are not as big a draw that they think they are.

Had Widnes been playing Wigan, St Helens or Warrington there would have been a much higher attendance, and that's not just down to locality.'"

So Widnes rely on away support to get good crowds? If so, they are in serious trouble.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "So Widnes rely on away support to get good crowds? If so, they are in serious trouble.'"


I think he was suggesting that more of the Widnes support would turn out for a visit from one of Wigan, Saints or Warrington than will for the visit of Leeds. Though such a tie would likely also result in a bigger away contingent too.

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Quote: JonnoTheGreat "I think that attendance showed that despite what their fans say, Leeds are not as big a draw that they think they are.

Had Widnes been playing Wigan, St Helens or Warrington there would have been a much higher attendance, and that's not just down to locality.'"


It’s everything down to locality you odd man.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: JonnoTheGreat "I think that attendance showed that despite what their fans say, Leeds are not as big a draw that they think they are.

Had Widnes been playing Wigan, St Helens or Warrington there would have been a much higher attendance, and that's not just down to locality.'"


1. Leeds are the best Supported SL club and the 8th best Supported RL club on the planet
2. Wigan, Saints and Wire are derbies for Widnes....leeds is 3 times the distance away that Wigan is,.........the other 2 are inside 8 miles away...it has everything to do with locality as well as your obvious anti Leeds/Yorkshire attitude.
3. Widnes are not the draw that they used to be.

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Quote: JonnoTheGreat "I think that attendance showed that despite what their fans say, Leeds are not as big a draw that they think they are.

Had Widnes been playing Wigan, St Helens or Warrington there would have been a much higher attendance, and that's not just down to locality.'"


I'm sure it would've been higher for those teams just like it's higher for the likes of Cas and Hudds when Leeds visit over the likes of Wigan, Wire and Saints. It's almost like it's down to locality.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: ThePrinter "I'm sure it would've been higher for those teams just like it's higher for the likes of Cas and Hudds when Leeds visit over the likes of Wigan, Wire and Saints. It's almost like it's down to locality.'"

too subtle for him...... icon_wink.gif

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Huddersfield hosting Catalan in the quarters could be record breaking for all the wrong reasons...2,500 is a record low for a Quarter Final....

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Should we maybe think of having a Magic Weekend style Cup quarter finals?
Either 4 games on 1 day or 2 double headers?

I certainly think we should have a double header for the semis. I’d go anyway if it was my team involved but if I were a neutral I’d be much more inclined to go to a double header.

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Quote: Call Me God "Huddersfield hosting Catalan in the quarters could be record breaking for all the wrong reasons...2,500 is a record low for a Quarter Final....'"


Which game was that CMG ?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Budgiezilla "Which game was that CMG ?'"

IIRC (and this is from memory.....) London at Sheffield in 2013........it was the round before we got annihilated by Wigan and our owner spat hs dummy out, resulting in humiliation and relegation the following year......a hissy fit that has seen him bankroll us since out of guilt.
........which asks the question of Argyle and what he'll do next year once Toronto (under the cap) are hammered week in week out......

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