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With Swift, Smith, LMS and Bentley actually being the key. Over the last few years there's been too clear divide in the squad between first choice and "cover", and the clear out (Owens, Richards et al) shows that Holbrook isn't interested in that, which is the biggest positive of all.

Feel really positive going into next season as a Saints fan, much more so than last year. Only time will tell of course.

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Quote: Superted "Widnes and Salford look the weakest by some margin to me, then KR, Catalan and Wakey.

I also think Cas might struggle to stay near the top - when you look at individual players, their 17 really isn't that good, but in Powell they have a coach who absolutely gets more than the sum of its parts. The loss of Hardaker, any injury or loss of form from Gale, plus teams having a full off season to work out how to combat the free flowing, spread it wide attack of Cas will see them find 2018 much harder I think. Could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time), but I don't see Cas making the 4.

IMO It'll be Leeds, Wigan, Wire and then Saints or Hull for the top 4, probably Saints.'"


To be brutally honest anywhere outside of bottom 4 is the first aim. In the 2 previous seasons the LLS winners have ended up bottom 4 the following season, so to break that trend is OK by me. I’m not overly convinced by our recruitment, but DP seems to be able to make the sum greater than its parts, so who knows?

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Quote: caslad75 "To be brutally honest anywhere outside of bottom 4 is the first aim.'"



I think that should be the aim for every single club. First 8 games or so you should be hoping for at least 4 wins or more otherwise a bit of nerves and lack of confidence could set into any team.

I see that Leeds' rivals have realised the only way to stop us winning SL is to wipe out our training ground and a fire was deliberately started there today but doesn't seem to have caused any serious damage......the lengths our rivals will go to icon_smile.gif

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Quote: vastman "NO i didnt forget him he's already on the bench. I fully expect him blow SL away this season injuries permitting - young player of the year hopefully Thought you'd stuck Kirmond on the bench tbh, looking back you'd mentioned both. Anyway agree with the points about Batch, if he stays injury free he could well be a regular in the 17 & be in the running for YPY.

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Hull will miss Ellis and Fonua (although I have a good feeling about Farmino)

I'd say our 17 is slightly weaker,but our squad is stronger, really have to try and finish in the top 2 this year and get a home semi, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to not do as well in the cup.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: Uncle Rico "On what basis? He's making all the right noises since his arrival and definitely has a point to prove'"


Exactly. He’s identified where the team needs strengthening and has done so. Ignore the Wakefield fans, they have had their first top 6 finish in 49 years and in doing so have become loud about it

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To be fair if a new coach "making the right noises" meant anything then just about every new coach would succeed at their new club.

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Ellis was a good on field leader but we didn't miss him for his playing ability
8th of the Hull forwards (not incl Houghton in any of these) for Tackle Busts
=6th of the Hull forwards in metres made
4th of the forwards in av.metres/carry
8th of the forwards in Try assists

10th in tackles made
=4th worst in tackles missed (as a %)
2nd in errors (his best stat by a mile)
Chris Green was his equal in attack/defence, I stand by my statement that Ellis was ineffective in attack last 2 years.

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Quote: Lebron James "Exactly. He’s identified where the team needs strengthening and has done so. Ignore the Wakefield fans, they have had their first top 6 finish in 49 years and in doing so have become loud about it

Regards

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Finished 5th a few years ago, having beaten Hull in the play-offs.

Cheated by Ashley Klown at Wigan the following game.

So twice in 49 years ya tool!

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Ellis was a good on field leader but we didn't miss him for his playing ability
8th of the Hull forwards (not incl Houghton in any of these) for Tackle Busts


Chris Green as good as Gareth Ellis? Interesting.

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Quote: dboy "Finished 5th a few years ago, having beaten Hull in the play-offs.

Cheated by Ashley Klown at Wigan the following game.

So twice in 49 years ya tool!'"

Not that he'd know, he's an amateur WUM. We've finished 5th in 2009 and don't forget 6th in 2004

What makes his post even funnier his Uncle Rico was replying to a Salford fan.

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Quote: Lebron James "Exactly. He’s identified where the team needs strengthening and has done so. Ignore the Wakefield fans, they have had their first top 6 finish in 49 years and in doing so have become loud about it

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Ellis was a good on field leader but we didn't miss him for his playing ability
8th of the Hull forwards (not incl Houghton in any of these) for Tackle Busts


Just tells me you don't watch the game, just look at the stats.

Ellis was in the top 10 for MOS nominations again this year (Top 3 the year before), despite missing a fair few games.

But what do the players and coaches know?

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