Ok all non Cas fans can we just say Cas are going to storm through the playoffs and win because it's clearly upsetting their fans who can't accept that some people don't think Cas will win the GF. Let's ignore all past history when it comes to playoffs and the major experience factor other teams have because Paul McShane once played in one single WCC for Leeds where he gifted Melbourne the softest of tries. Let's pretend also that they aren't writing others of themselves or will have done in previous years, I'm sure they were all saying Hudds would win in 2013 after they won the LLS.

Were Huddersfield quite as dominant as Cas in 2013? Did they have an unbeaten home record which gave them an edge in the playoffs ? Was it as straightforward to even make the GF back then? Basically Cas 2017 and Huddersfield 2013 are not the same sides (not disrespecting Huddersfield either). They won something which is still better then sod all .

If (and its a big if) we (Tigers) get to the Grand Final we are most likely going to be up against a team who have experience in final/s over the last couple of seasons - Wigan, Saints, Leeds or Hull FC. We would be the under dogs which is exactly what I and most other Cas fans want and expect.

The only chance we have of going to Old Trafford as favourites would be if we were up against Wakey, Salford or Hudds.

Whatever happens I'm enjoying the ride - what a fantastic season 2017 has been.

Warrington in 2011 were better than this seasons Cas side and lost a home semi final to the team who finished 5th.

What's the point in getting into a debate on a subject when you just make things up in response, who has suggested we are going to 'Storm the play offs'. I believe we will win the grand final because we are far and above the best team throughout the season. You don't because nobody has done it at first attempt. History isn't everything otherwise we would still be waiting for a Hull FC wembley win.

Hull FC ??? They have been in one grand final which was 11 years ago

I suggest you look at the bookies odds, regardless we will be favourites, we've been evens to win it pretty much 3 months now.

You are indeed correct "Cas Till I Die"
Castleford are Red hot favourites to win the Grand Final and quite rightly so IMO as they are miles ahead of all the rest of the chasing pack in terms of both league points and performances this season

To be 10 points ahead of your closest rival after 23 rounds is an absolutely massive statement and is why William Hill have these odds for this season's GF Winners as of today

EVENS Castleford
5/1 Leeds
11/2 Hull FC
7/1 St Helens
8/1 Wigan
16/1 Salford
50/1 Wakefield
80/1 Huddersfield

Those odds say as much about how far Cas are from the rest of SL at present.
The odds of all the other teams will shrink and Cas could well be longer come the final, if they are in there.
They are certain of a semi final spot but, apart from Leeds, none of the other clubs are, especially Wakefield & Salford.

I maybe biased but Salford at 16/1 and Wakey at 50/1 is a bizarre reflection of the league where both teams are separated by points difference alone. I think this shows that bookies odds are not necessarily a reflection of the real likelihood of something to happen, just purely where the money flows.

You'll be lumping your mortgage money on then at those odds of 50/1?

I'm surprised they haven't drifted out further after the weekend wake-up call.

I'm a bit pleased though, because that's the odds I got after the Cas game, when they were quite good.

I know, it's "dead" money however, I got this e-mail from some on-line betting group saying that because of inactivity on my account I had to either spend it or lose it. Lose - Lose really.

You could have just withdrew it surely?

So Hull have a massive advantage over us because they were in the cup final last year and had a grand final appearance 11 years ago ??? Aren't you the one that also said I was embarrassing because I said earlier in the season Sean wane was worried about us this season ??? If so, Your not a pundit pal your a fan on a rugby league fan site

It was only a fiver, I would have put in on Cas, but those odds are extremely poor, based on the the view of the "experts" from the cartel.