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| Quote GIANT DAZ="GIANT DAZ"Way i see it is .....would the pass that has hit the 'defender' be a legal pass in normal play ?
ie would a player deliberately throw a pass to the ground or forward ? the answer to that is no so unless a defender is actually stood in the way, being above waist height of the ball, as that is usually more or less the height of where a ball is passed from DH, then it should be penalised and given to the defending team, how can the Referees ignore the usual rules of the game because someone has chosen to throw the ball forward and onto the ground as happened yesterday ?
If a player on the ground as Brough was wasn't there why would you purposely aim a pass to the floor ?
It's cheating and it needs to be stopped - that one last night was disgraceful and Jones should be made to apologise for it !!!'"
Exactly.
Now had Jones ran into him and "tripped over" then at least there's an argument to be made that the defender was offside. But to throw the ball forward at him is a disgrace. The ref should have known better than to give that. There is no situation where that would have been legal.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"Exactly.
Now had Jones ran into him and "tripped over" then at least there's an argument to be made that the defender was offside. But to throw the ball forward at him is a disgrace. The ref should have known better than to give that. There is no situation where that would have been legal.'"
Correct , the moment the ball left his hand forward before it hit the player it was a pass , so scrum to opposition
If as happened last week when Hood threw the ball back into the line and hit the Cas player , then that was a legitimate offside
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| Quote meast="meast"I didn't realise we had avoided relegation 10 years ago, care to enlighten me?
And as it's a public forum then i, as a Huddersfield fan have every right to have an opinion on anything, get your head out of your
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My apologies. As Huddersfield have done nothing for years and been so unmemorable my memory has been hazy. Let me rephrase it. Remind me again how Huddersfield cheated, sorry, avoided relegation 18 seasons ago?
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| Quote Lebron James="Lebron James"My apologies. As Huddersfield have done nothing for years and been so unmemorable my memory has been hazy. Let me rephrase it. Remind me again how Huddersfield cheated, sorry, avoided relegation 18 seasons ago?
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That would be the year we finished bottom again and expected to be relegated, only for the RFL to deny Hunslet, who had won the NFP Grand Final, entry into Super League the following year based on their ground not meeting criteria/standards required ?
Or is that not the answer you wanted ?
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| It's so easy to fix - I can't see any controversy. If the defender is interfering with play in a meaningful way - it's a penalty to the attacking team. If the attacker commits what would ordinarily be an offence in trying to prove that the defender is interfering - he has still committed an offence and that should be penalised in the way it normally would; in the Jones instance, a forward pass.
I guess it relies on the ref being able to differentiate one from the other, so if you want to be charitable, you could suggest that the players don't have confidence in the officials to do that consistently, so they try to force the issue; personally I don't believe that - I think it's just cynical cheating.
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| I expect defenders to just stand around doing their nails now
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"Correct , the moment the ball left his hand forward before it hit the player it was a pass , so scrum to opposition
If as happened last week when Hood threw the ball back into the line and hit the Cas player , then that was a legitimate offside'"
Is a deliberate forward pass not a penalty now? (Or has it ever been?  )
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| The problem with the RFL statement is that the defenders tended not to be penalised for interference unless the ball hits them or an attacker runs into them which is why the dummy half started throwing the ball into the defender in the first place. This was generally in done in the interest of letting the game flow which is not necessarily a bad thing.
This relies on refs having the understanding of when the defender is affecting play which I'm not sure too many refs are able to do.
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| Quote Trainman="Trainman"The problem with the RFL statement is that the defenders tended not to be penalised for interference unless the ball hits them or an attacker runs into them which is why the dummy half started throwing the ball into the defender in the first place. This was generally in done in the interest of letting the game flow which is not necessarily a bad thing.
This relies on refs having the understanding of when the defender is affecting play which I'm not sure too many refs are able to do.'"
I dunno - I think it's pretty clear if someone is trying to impede or not - also if they are making sufficient effort to clear the ruck/not stand in passing lanes etc.
I dont think we'll see too much of it now anyway, it's not worth conceding a penalty over when you could keep the ball and attack
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| We also don't need defenders loitering around the ptb after a tackle, slowing it down thinking they can get away with it.
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