Quote GIANT DAZ="GIANT DAZ"At the end of the day, a young player at Saints/Wigan/Wire/Leeds will always be in front of any other player in his position regardless of age/form/ simply because of the club they play for....this ideal that a player MUST be better cos he plays in a better team is laughable. Wardle is class but won't get ahead of the likes of Sarginson and even Percival ( who to me isn't even anywhere near his top potential yet but plays for Saints) despite having been solid and performing well for 3 or 4 years.'"
The point you are making is silly. I don't think there's anyone in the country who thinks EVERY SINGLE PLAYER at the most successful clubs is demonstrably "better" than his opposite number at Huddersfield.
However, successful clubs are ... well ... successful. Unless you are suggesting Saints, Wigan, Leeds etc. win by magic or bribery or whatever - you have to conclude these clubs possess some kind of superiority in playing staff. Which means any national coach must automatically assume the very real liklihood that player X operating in position Y at, say, Leeds is a better option than his opposite number at Huddersfield.
To deny this truth from the outset is every bit as foolish as the error you keep accusing others of making.
Quote GIANT DAZJerry McGillvary has been and still is one of the most powerful, explosive, exciting, fastest wingers in Super League for years but will never ever be mentioned as an international while the top clubs have English guys playing (again - no matter how well they are actually doing !!).'"
Was Jerry McGillvary kidnapped at gunpoint and forced to sign a contract with Huddersfield? Of course not. He joined the club with open eyes and knew from the outset that given Huddersfield's lack of success he'd have to not only equal the feats of his peers at the top four but exceed them. He hasn't done this. Or would you have us believe that an English coach desperately attempting to be the first man to break the forty-odd year Australian hoodoo would rather
LOSE THE MATCH selecting a player from the top four than
WIN IT (thus sealing his place in history, enjoying countless career spin-offs, possibly even a Knighthood) by playing a better man from Huddersfield?