so, maximum 60k......reality is about 30k a year.....from a minimum 4 million turn over.
....I repeat about 1% of a clubs turn over.........hardly a game changer and a smoke screen laid by COE'sand Chairmen who failed to deliver on promises they made

Maths notyour strong point then?

2nd,and 2 Play offs and a challenge cup final stands upas a better return than some current SL clubs.....


soikeother RL fans, you've found another excuse not to go to games....good for you.



how about 1.3 million a year from SKY in return for say 40k in revenue...not profit mind you,but revenue?

Which team is "full of second-rate journeymen Aussies?" Catalans? Are you refering to Scott Dureau, the Dream Team scrum half? Damien Blanch? Darryl Millard? Lopini Paea? Steve Menzies? Ian Henderson? Any club would love to have such "journeymen" in their squad.




London is full of Aussie journeymen, is it? Do you mean Craig Gower, the former Australian Test scrum half? Michael Robertson, the 2011 Manly Grand Final winning winger? Shane Rodney, the 2011 Manly Grand Final winning second rower? Chris Bailey?




How many fans do you think North Queensland brings to games in Sydney and Melbourne? have you heard anyone in Australia complain about that? No, it is only the parochial Little Northern Englanders who raise the issue of lack of away support against the expansion clubs. The NRL clubs do just fine without the travelling fans from Townsville.

Why do you think that Toulouse will be a weak expansion club? Because of the record of Catalans Dragons? Haven't you noticed that this is the third year in which Catalans are well into the top six performing clubs? Why should Toulouse be any different after 6 years? In fact Toulouse will have a much stronger financial base than Catalans, and a much bigger population base than Catalans, from which to recruit supporters and juniors.

There is no reason to doubt that Toulouse can become, like Catalans, a massive success story. I anticipate that Toulouse will be pulling in more home fans than Salford in its first year.

I simply don't care. I've never liked the idea of creating clubs and keeping them around in the name of expansion, especially when they're going backwards. There's no community tradition, no history, a poor and dwindling fan base and as far as I'm concerned other clubs suffer for the lack of travelling support.

Good that you're proud of having to bring in so many Aussies.


So build a strong Toulouse in a French league. Don't ask fans to fork out more money on 2 trips to France every season and put up with another lame atmosphere when the mighty Toulouse visit.

Oh, and this isn't the NRL. A comparison is irrelevant.

You stand a chance that for the first time in 18 years that London may finish in what would have been a relegation position...the previous 17, we haven't and are therefore deserving of being where we are.
If you are referring to our placement in the first Summer Superleague, then you are simply grasping at straws.

As for Tradition/Community.......we have both....it's just our tradition isn't 100 years old yet. Our community is doing fine.....why don't you google 2012 year 7 National RL Champions ............Howard of Effingham?

Fans are a concern for the owner, the management and the RFL....they are all to do with self appointed RL administrators like yourself who back up their assertions with nothing.
Here"s COLD HARD EVIDENCE to show your away fan theory is a myth.

HKR's Chairman claimed they needed 10k average to break even.....they achieved 7,786 last year. When we called last year, they got 6,713.....at 15 quid a ticket, we cost them 16,000 quid based on that average.........us aside, they fell 26,568 fans short...or 500,000 pounds.......but their Chairman goes on record and blames the expansion teams...because he knows the majority of his flatcapped supporters won't bother looking to deeply into the real problems at the club.

Feel free to repeat this at the other 11 english teams....the results are similar.

London Broncos RLFC have no debts.....there are very few of the 14 SL clubs that can currently say that....we play in a state of the art purpouse built Rugby Stadium.....again, one of a few and we have a youth set up that means we have the same amount of journeymen as most of the other teams in SL.

I am the first to slag off Londons owner, CEO and inept handling of the club by the RFL......but at least I back my assertions up with knowledge and fact.

Early on the sauce tonight Cronus

Your opinion of Championship 1 then this year would interest me greatly

£329,440.00....based on £20 a ticket, split between 12 heartland clubs, this is £27,453 each.

If you admit that the average Turn over of a SL club is approximately £5,000,000 then London cost them about half a percent of their turn over.

Sky wanted London........would you rather they took their £1,350,000 a year elsewhere so you could welcome 1,350 halifax fans to your club once a year?

Incidently, using the same maths Catalan cost every club £21,000 , Salford cost each team £15,000.....and Widnes £12,500......all based on attendance v average at £20 a ticket and allowing for those games where the team above attracted a crowd higher than the average.

See....I freely admit to London not bringng away fans and therefore costing the hosts lost ticketing revenue...but I then back it up with facts to show the loss is minimal in the greater scheme of things......

.....as in, a host club in the heartlands would need to attract only a total of 1,350 more home fans to 13 games in a season to cover this "supposed" massive loss.....105 fans per game
Surely with all their sense of community and herritage they won't have an issue doing that....maybe they could pull a Bradford and have a bucket collection

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Quote: wire quin "After several weeks of rumour and negotiation, Richard Branson's Virgin group has taken a majority shareholding in the London Broncos - with a promise to make them the best club in the world.
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An annoying publicity seeking RL chairman, promising the earth .... I thought it sounded familiar

How would sir like his freshly spanked handed to him?

BTW.....I never said that Sky would walk....I simply summised that they might. Either way...with all that herritage and history, as well as a sense of community, surely the 12 hearltland clubs can find 100 more fans per home game.......I mean to say.....it's the heartlands

Catalans and London are not the only teams with "so many Aussies." Take a look at Hull KR, Wakefield, in fact most of the SL clubs except Leeds and Huddersfield are stacked with Aussies and Kiwis.



Who is putting a gun to the head of English fans and forcing them to fly to France? They all go of their own free will, and the overwhelming majority love the experience. You should try it. Or don't you travel abroad?



It is quite relevant. The distances between many clubs in the NRL is much greater than in the SL. Townsville is more than twice the distance from Sydney than Perpignan is from Salford. Nobody in Sydney area NRL clubs have complained about this problem when North Queensland fans don't travel from Townsville to Sydney. It is only the parochial whinging fans from failing clubs in the north of England who do.