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| SL should not exand into non heartland areas again unless the RFL has the money to guarantee seed funding for at least 10 years or gets a guarantee of funding from the expansion club with moneys being deposited with the RFL. Crusaders was a farce from day one and followed the same pattern as Gateshead and Paris.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "SL should not exand into non heartland areas again unless the RFL has the money to guarantee seed funding for at least 10 years or gets a guarantee of funding from the expansion club with moneys being deposited with the RFL. Crusaders was a farce from day one and followed the same pattern as Gateshead and Paris.'"
That is exactly what i have suggested in the past, expect Smokey on shortly to explain why you are being completely unreasonable
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Of course it is a sport, it is a great sport, it is the biggest sport in the world. I don’t understand the weird sense of superiority some RL fans have about football, like somehow our players earning less and fewer people only being prepared to pay less is a good thing.
I would happily pay £1000 for a season ticket to see the very very best rugby players playing in fantastic stadiums.'"
It would rule many out, just as it has done in football.
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| Quote: Starbug "That is exactly what i have suggested in the past, expect Smokey on shortly to explain why you are being completely unreasonable
No i wont, I have said numerous times a guarantee would be useful, and it would help make the process clear and show anyone interested what they need to do.
I simply said that your demand that they pay this guarantee up front, in a cash bond is stupid, counter-productive and would mean clubs who were otherwise able to function perfectly well as SL clubs, couldnt purely on the basis they didnt have a ridiculously large cash amount up front to leave sitting in a bank account.
Though I do wonder whether you would be demanding that Leigh pay £10m in to an RFL account should they be promoted, and how this stupidly large cash payment they would need to pay, tallys with your constant, unending bleating that the criteria put in place actually stops people investing in to championship clubs? Are you saying that a prospective investor in Leigh is put off by the fact they need to meet some fairly low standards in youth development, attendances, marketing, facilities etc, to be promoted? but would be perfectly fine in having to leave £10m in an account with the RFL for years to be promoted?
Or is this just another example of your 'im not against expansion as long as we make it impossible for expansion to actually happen to anybody but my club' standpoint?
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| Quote: rover49 "It would rule many out, just as it has done in football.'"
Not that many, thats why football has such better attendances than any other sport.
You get what you pay for. Right now we pay relatively low prices overtime that is translating to relatively low quality, we are getting further away from the NRL and a fair amount of our best players are playing either RU or NRL. If we want a high quality sport, in high quality facilities then we as fans of the game are the only ones who can pay for it.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Not that many, thats why football has such better attendances than any other sport.
You get what you pay for. Right now we pay relatively low prices overtime that is translating to relatively low quality, we are getting further away from the NRL and a fair amount of our best players are playing either RU or NRL. If we want a high quality sport, in high quality facilities then we as fans of the game are the only ones who can pay for it.'"
Some people have other priorities in life rather than paying out all their spare cash just to watch Rugby and line the pockets of players, like paying the gas bill etc. Twenty pounds to watch a game of SL is more than enough in my opinion. If everyone reverted to a part time situation this would help relieve the strain on club finances and you would probably get better crowds by being able to charge more reasonable prices on the gate.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "
Tah dah! And as if by magic
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "You get what you pay for. Right now we pay relatively low prices overtime that is translating to relatively low quality, we are getting further away from the NRL and a fair amount of our best players are playing either RU or NRL. If we want a high quality sport, in high quality facilities then we as fans of the game are the only ones who can pay for it.'"
Just checked the Harlequins RU website and their ticket prices start from £20 for adults.
You can watch Premierleague matches for as little as £17 at Blackburn (adult) or £20 at Wigan. Appreciate prices will be higher at the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal etc but as you can't buy single match tickets on spec for these grounds not able to readily see what they are.
At Cas you pay £20 to stand up and an additional £5 to upgrade to seating.
Would be interesting to know how much it costs to watch an NRL game - suspect not much if any more than it costs at Superleague.
So it looks like going to Superleague isn't particularly cheaper than the other sports. They just derive more income from other sources such as sponsorship and TV revenue.
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| £36 cheapest at Chelsea this year. If you can get them - should be easier now!
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| Quote: rupert bear "Some people have other priorities in life rather than paying out all their spare cash just to watch Rugby and line the pockets of players, like paying the gas bill etc. Twenty pounds to watch a game of SL is more than enough in my opinion. If everyone reverted to a part time situation this would help relieve the strain on club finances and you would probably get better crowds by being able to charge more reasonable prices on the gate.'"
I'll let someone else deal with this ridiculous suggestion...
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| Quote: rupert bear "Some people have other priorities in life rather than paying out all their spare cash just to watch Rugby and line the pockets of players, like paying the gas bill etc. Twenty pounds to watch a game of SL is more than enough in my opinion. If everyone reverted to a part time situation this would help relieve the strain on club finances and you would probably get better crowds by being able to charge more reasonable prices on the gate.'"
We all have priorities, and we have options, there is a semi-pro game which charges less, there is an amateur game which charges nothing. If you want to pay nothing or next to nothing these are your options.
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| Quote: Cecil B "Just checked the Harlequins RU website and their ticket prices start from £20 for adults.
You can watch Premierleague matches for as little as £17 at Blackburn (adult) or £20 at Wigan. Appreciate prices will be higher at the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal etc but as you can't buy single match tickets on spec for these grounds not able to readily see what they are.
At Cas you pay £20 to stand up and an additional £5 to upgrade to seating.
Would be interesting to know how much it costs to watch an NRL game - suspect not much if any more than it costs at Superleague.
So it looks like going to Superleague isn't particularly cheaper than the other sports. They just derive more income from other sources such as sponsorship and TV revenue.'"
You can buy tickets from £17 at blackburn, you can also pay upto £43. Plus Blackburn are playing in front of an average of 23k, Castleford are playing in front of 7k.
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| Quote: Starbug "Tah dah! And as if by magic
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Well, I dont mind highlighting where you are wrong.'"
It was jb that posted the idea, highlight his post and dissect it
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| Quote: Cecil B "
Would be interesting to know how much it costs to watch an NRL game - suspect not much if any more than it costs at Superleague.
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NRL membership prices for all clubs:
1. Gold Coast
Adult $615-210
Child $350-130
Family (2+2) $1600-550
Concession $510-180
Non Ticketed $50
2. Brisbane
Adult $495-195
Child $245-130
Family (2+2) $1240-700
Concession $400-190
Non Ticketed $30
3. Cowboys
Adult $535-148
Child $355-67
Family (2+2) $1,258-376
Concession (none for best seats) $130-103
Non Ticketed $N/A
4. Sharks
Adult $(1000) 450-240
Child $315-165
Family (2+2) $1150-550
Concession $-165
Non Ticketed $70
5. Eels
Adult $(1,155) 575 (330)-175
Child $470 (260)-105
Family (2+2) $870-440
Concession $470-105
Non Ticketed $75
6. Dragons
Adult $(1,340) 480-150
Child $225-105
Family (2+2) (no family deals best two categories) $735-360
Concession (no concession best packages) $ 225-105
Non Ticketed $66
7. Melbourne
Adult $(2,200) 450-190
Child $200-35
Family (2+2) $920-380
Concession $390-125
Non Ticketed $N/A
8. Manly
Adult $420-160
Child $250-65
Family (2+2) $1210-430
Concession $345-110
Non Ticketed $60
9. Wests
Adult $(995) 390-220
Child $225-95
Family (2+2) $890-485
Concession $285-165
Non Ticketed $60
10.Raiders
Adult $365-230
Child $265-170
Family (2+2) $825-505
Concession $265-170
Non Ticketed $70
11.Souths
Adult $339-220
Child $190-70
Family (2+2) $865-510 (GA up to 4kids)
Concession $222-150
Non Ticketed $90
12. Warriors
Adult $340-142
Child $145-71
Family (2+3) $750-355
Concession N/A
Non Ticketed $35
13. Penrith
Adult $300-180
Child $200-80
Family (2+2) $620-360
Concession $200-80
Non Ticketed $N/A
14. Knights
Adult $380-135
Child $190-60
Family (2+2) $810-270
Concession $280-100
Non Ticketed $75
15. Roosters
Adult $(2,490) 325-99
Child $240-99
Family (2+2) $850-299
Concession $240-99
Non Ticketed $35
16. Bulldogs
Adult $330-99
Child $125-40
Family (2+2) $785-240
Concession $210-70
Non Ticketed $N/A
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