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| Quote: Canoeman "13%of the troops but one of the 5 beaches (uhhh....for you that would be 20%; punchiing above their weight again). Ever hear of the Battle of Britain?, many of the pilots in those planes were Canadian....very disrespectful. Ever hear of the Battle of the Atlantic....that was the Canadian Navy fighting those subs so your people could eat....very disrespectful. Without us you would have been finished in that war and you know it....we fed ya, we clothed ya, we defended ya....we saved ya and you have forgotten it. Alot of us died to help you folks out.
Ever hear of the term over there "Lest We Not Forget'
-that means more than one day of the year my friend,that means we will remember them every day, 365 of them, every year! I will always remember them and not try to sluff them off on a web page. SHAME!'"
Hark at you sunshine !
HAVE YOU EVER served 1 day or more in the military ?
Sound just like a civvie banging his chest about *how brave we are/were* while all the time wielding nothing more deadly than a biro & dodging nothing more dangerous than a bit of hard work !
Oh & Moosemilk is really rather nice, I used to enjoy it, though I fear that you haven't the faintest clue what I am referring to do you ?
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| Quote: RoyBoy29 "so if you break or ignore the salary cap to gain success, whats your view on that?'"
It’s happened many times, various clubs have had points deducted for breaching the salary cap, Melbourne have had titles stripped. Apparently the cap is now live and it’s not possible to go over.
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| Quote: RoyBoy29 "so if you break or ignore the salary cap to gain success, whats your view on that?'"
That any club who break the salary cap in any way should be severely punished. I think the punishments in the past weren’t harsh enough.
Is there any evidence Toronto has broken the salary cap?
I’d be surprised if there is. Clubs that are successful are often accused of breaking the salary cap, usually without anything to back it up.
The point was that it’s a silly argument to accuse Toronto of trying to “buy success” as if it’s a bad thing. Every club does so. Paying your players is buying success.
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "Hark at you sunshine !
HAVE YOU EVER served 1 day or more in the military ?
Sound just like a civvie banging his chest about *how brave we are/were* while all the time wielding nothing more deadly than a biro & dodging nothing more dangerous than a bit of hard work !
Oh & Moosemilk is really rather nice, I used to enjoy it, though I fear that you haven't the faintest clue what I am referring to do you ?'"
Too many presumptions, nowhere have I mentioned bravery, I am merely responding to your boast that Canadian forces ‘saved our butts’, which disrespects all the other nations who contributed to the allied victory.
End of conversation.
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| Quote: Him "That any club who break the salary cap in any way should be severely punished. I think the punishments in the past weren’t harsh enough.
Is there any evidence Toronto has broken the salary cap?
I’d be surprised if there is. Clubs that are successful are often accused of breaking the salary cap, usually without anything to back it up.
The point was that it’s a silly argument to accuse Toronto of trying to “buy success” as if it’s a bad thing. Every club does so. Paying your players is buying success.'"
As I said a few pages back, a quick look through their squad is enough to know they’re not spending £1.9m on that squad, considering only a few top end SL squads are doing so.
This thread is unfortunately Drawing out those “fans” who’d rather see the sport due on its , than see their club easily overtaken by a newcomer. They won’t change their positions, no matter how often you debunk their conspiracy theories or points. They apply ridiculously high standards to expansion sides that they wouldn’t apply to an M62 club. Their minds are closed unfortunately,
TWP are taking RL to a new audience and brining money into the game. For year 2, that’s enough for me.
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47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Your key word being predominantly, it attracts new fans - proof? I've family myself who have never watched a minute of Rugby yet came up to watch the latest double header in Newcaslte. Would you call that expansion? As small as it may be?
"Like saints paying Barba.
Leeds getting players like peacock, sinfield, moon et Al.
And Bradford with vinakolo, Paul brothers etc."
All out of context... they're 1 and 2 players. Not 27 so don't talk absolute rubbish'"
I felt a couple of players would be sufficient, but I'm pretty sure all the members of champion squad over the SL years have been full paid professionals.
Is your point that success abd expansion only counts if your squad consists of x number of players born within town/City boundaries.
If that is the rule we will need to start stripping some clubs of titles they have won.
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| Quote: reffy "Too many presumptions, nowhere have I mentioned bravery, I am merely responding to your boast that Canadian forces ‘saved our butts’, which disrespects all the other nations who contributed to the allied victory.
End of conversation.'"
I think you might be responding to the wrong post @reffy
My post responded to & quoted Boatface/Canoeboy
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| You are correct, apologies, I was of course responding to the Canadian. R Sole.
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| Quote: reffy "You are correct, apologies, I was of course responding to the Canadian. R Sole.'"
Get your facts straight...you are confusing everyone.
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| Quote: reffy "You are a complete and utter bragging numptie. So one beach is 20% and the way you are coming across is that the other 80% didn’t count because the Canadians saved our butts. Don’t talk to me about ‘lest we forget ‘, I have probably had more years selling poppies than you have had years on this planet. A poppy represents a member of the forces that lost a life, irrespective of colour, creed or nationality. You are the clown who thinks Canadian soldiers, airmen and sailor lives were special because they saved our butts.
“Without us etc “ is the biggest load of nationalistic posing tripe i have read for ages.'"
Not only were the Canadians 'special' everyone knows they were the best of the best....you do not have a corner on the memories of the poppy either...I lost buddies out there. Save your tripe for the uninitiated.
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "Hark at you sunshine !
HAVE YOU EVER served 1 day or more in the military ?
Sound just like a civvie banging his chest about *how brave we are/were* while all the time wielding nothing more deadly than a biro & dodging nothing more dangerous than a bit of hard work !
Oh & Moosemilk is really rather nice, I used to enjoy it, though I fear that you haven't the faintest clue what I am referring to do you ?'"
Totally off base...let me guess... is the moosemilk what you guys in logistics drink when you are in the back lines in the office dreaming of someday talking and meeting someone from the Combat Arms...well today is your lucky day, show respect for your betters. You have no idea.
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| Quote: Canoeman "Not only were the Canadians 'special' everyone knows they were the best of the best....you do not have a corner on the memories of the poppy either...I lost buddies out there. Save your tripe for the uninitiated.'"
“The best of the best.”, have you a degree in hyperbole?
I lost a couple of uncles, one in the Atlantic and one in Burma but you losing buddies, you really are an old fart.
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| Quote: reffy "“The best of the best.”, have you a degree in hyperbole?
I lost a couple of uncles, one in the Atlantic and one in Burma but you losing buddies, you really are an old fart.'"
I truly wish what you have posted was true but it isn't...some people see poppies on Remembrance Day, but I see faces....always a very sad day for me. I ain't that old.
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| Quote: Canoeman "I truly wish what you have posted was true but it isn't...some people see poppies on Remembrance Day, but I see faces....always a very sad day for me. I ain't that old.'"
In a thread about the Canadian Salary cap, you're spouting more inconsequential and irrelevant rubbish......... Jesus wept man, you're not even trying to hide the fact you're a troll. Have you got money on how quickly you can get banned from here?
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| Taken from totalrl.com...
There’s a general theme in professional sport that money is the key to success.
It’s hard to argue with the facts. But there are occasional exceptions to that rule, and there is one living example in the Championship.
In a division featuring huge budgets, four full-time teams and clubs with instant Super League aspirations, there’s a genuine threat to clubs like Halifax that they could get left behind.
But Richard Marshall and his plucky part-timers have refused to lie down and roll out the red carpet for their heavy-spending rivals.
Halifax defeated Batley on Saturday to go third in the Championship, moving above London, Featherstone and Leigh.
For context, this is a club spending approximately £350,000 on its playing budget this year.
In comparison, Leigh boast a seven-figure budget that compares to clubs in Super League, London also spend drastically more while Featherstone, who are also part-time, spend around £550,000.
Then there’s Toronto, who are near enough at the full salary cap, and Toulouse, another full-time outfit that far outspends the West Yorkshire club.
Fax have absolutely no right to be where they are in the table. Yet with eight games left until the split, they’re in the driving seat.
Their achievements are an example to all that money isn’t everything. Under Marshall, the club has gone about fine-tuning its infrastructure and building the club around the community.
Saturday’s matchday squad consisted of six Halifax-born players. A further four players from the town have also played for the club during their Championship campaign so far.
A key reason for the influx of hometown stars has been the development of the club’s reserve grade, which has not only ensured several players haven’t been lost to the game, but also provided them with a pathway into the professional scene.
Since it’s establishment in 2016, their reserve grade has brought through Brandon Moore, Elliot Morris and Chester Butler, who are now regular features in their first-team squad. Another, Nick Rawsthorne, earned a contract at Hull FC and is now playing for Toronto. All four of them could have dropped out of the game altogether if it wasn’t for Fax.
Off the field, the club has seen its support base go above and beyond to support the club. Fax Trust has raised thousands to support the running of the reserve grade. Another group, LS28, has spent a vast amount of money and effort to attract new and old supporters, but also to fund signings.
A result of all of that is a group of players proud to play for the club, and a fanbase proud to support it. That is the envy of many clubs right now.
Several players in Fax’s squad have had the opportunity to leave for better money elsewhere, but stayed to be a part of what the club stands for. On the terraces, fans who gave up years ago are creeping back through the gates.
There will come a time when Halifax want to seriously push for Super League, and when it comes, it’s inevitable that they’ll have to invest more money in their squad. However, unlike other clubs who just pump money into their first grade, they’ll have a sound infrastructure behind them.
Should Halifax make the top four, there are few achievements that could top it.
It’s far from a certainty, and their games against the chasing pack, starting with Leigh away on Sunday, will decide their fate.
But whether they make it or not, Halifax represents a lot of things other clubs could learn from and proves money doesn’t have to be the cornerstone of success.
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