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Hi will be a multi millionaire, his contract is worth $1mill a year allegedly.

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Bath have a salary cap, he'll be lucky to be on £500k a year, bet he won't be on that, $700 a year max I reckon. And of course you've got to put in living expenses and tax into that, so he won't be taking home massive amounts. Granted if he becomes an England regular and all the add-ons that brings, then yes as I said, he'll then get big money. M Giteau is apparently "only" on 480,000 Euro a year, and he's in the top 10 highest paid RU earners in the world. So Sam B is not gonna be anywhere near $1m a year, don't believe what Fatty and the boys say on TV and what News Ltd say in their papers.

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Money wise he is better off in the NRL, on around $700 incl of 3rd party deals. But he is playing like a guy who as just come into 1st grade!! The NRL is totally different to the Super league and he is finding it difficult in defense IMHO. In attack he chimes into the line well and has good hands, some people are calling for him to be put to. 6, but I feel he would be targeted more in defense at 6. Give him a little longer to settle in though before we cast judgement .

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Man of the match tonight as the warriors beat the storm in melbourne.

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Quote: Towns88 "Man of the match tonight as the warriors beat the storm in melbourne.'"


And deserved .

It was interesting how he was used. Coming out of their own 20 he was at acting half for the first 2 or 3 tackled to give friend a rest. NZ player with 3 halves Johnson floating with Sam on the right and Townsend on the left. There is certainly a case to move him to 6 once Locke is fit.

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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "And deserved .

It was interesting how he was used. Coming out of their own 20 he was at acting half for the first 2 or 3 tackled to give friend a rest. NZ player with 3 halves Johnson floating with Sam on the right and Townsend on the left. There is certainly a case to move him to 6 once Locke is fit.'"

He's always been a 6 for me.

We got away with playing him at 1 because the standard of Super League isn't great (bar 3 or 4 teams). I was never comfortable with Tomkins under the high ball - not when pressured.

He was a revelation playing there under the Maguire/Wane system because the whole attack was designed around getting the ball to him in space - and obviously he's a deadly open field runner. His passing/short kicking game is good enough for him to play 6 though and he'd frighten the life out of most teams playing there.

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He played well against Melbourne his best performance so far, that I have seen.

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funny thing is a lot of people said he wouldn't be as good in attack but i think he is better this season in the NRL than he was for Wigan last year. must be a dream to be a or winger outside of him.

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Quote: dubairl "funny thing is a lot of people said he wouldn't be as good in attack but i think he is better this season in the NRL than he was for Wigan last year. must be a dream to be a Centre or winger outside of him.'"


Eh? Did you watch any Wigan games last year? He had scored 20 tries even before the start of May. Nevermind all those he put on a plate for Charnley. This year he has 4(?) tries and only a couple of assists.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Eh? Did you watch any Wigan games last year? He had scored 20 tries even before the start of May. Nevermind all those he put on a plate for Charnley. This year he has 4(?) tries and only a couple of assists.'"


of course i watched him as much as possible, but he wasn't the same defence ripping player he was in the MOS season. This year against better teams and he got 3 assists in one match so its more than a couple. Not many players scored 20 tries as season in the NRL. My point being is he isn't struggling just like he didn't in super league.

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Quote: dubairl "of course i watched him as much as possible, but he wasn't the same defence ripping player he was in the MOS season. This year against better teams and he got 3 assists in one match so its more than a couple. Not many players scored 20 tries as season in the NRL. My point being is he isn't struggling just like he didn't in super league.'"


Sam Tomkins' reputation as being overrated and overpaid, held by some on the RL fans' forums, is a product of ignorance and resentment. Sam Tomkins is one of the best full backs in the world.

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The Sam debate continues, but who wouldn't want him in the their SL team.
I'd love to have him back in a Wigan shirt, he is worth the enterance fee alone sometimes.

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There is just that many quality players in the NRL that make Tomkins look more ordinary over there. Fullbacks alone, Inglish, Slater, Hayne, Dugan, Stewart and Barba would all make a mockery of Super League, just like Tomkins has done over the last few years.

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Locke fit move to 1
Tomkins plays 6
Johnson 7

Both half backs have a running and kicking game, frightening really.
Plus internationally we have a Tomkins/Widdop combo with Hardacker at 1

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Quote: Wire Yed "Locke fit move to 1
Tomkins plays 6
Johnson 7

Both half backs have a running and kicking game, frightening really.
Plus internationally we have a Tomkins/Widdop combo with Hardacker at 1'"


I hope they do that. I'm against picking Sam at 6 for England unless he is playing for his club there. I think it is his best position. Tomkins/Widdop combo with Hardacker at 1 looks good foe England imo

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