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Quote: Awesome Aquinas "I do see the major finals/attendance point in regards to fan numbers. The RFL do seem to prefer certain teams getting to them...'"


No, they don't.

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Quote: Wheels "No, they don't.'"

If by prefer, he means "fix", then no, you are correct, they don't, but .........London Broncos v Catalans at either Old Trafford or Wembley would seriously test the devotion of many heartland fans and must feature highly in the list of Nightmare Scenarios for The RFL management Team.......IMO that is

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That's sport. I doubt the FA were that chuffed when Millwall and Portsmouth got to their Cup final, but I don't hear football fans yelling about fixes to keep them out.

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Quote: gutterfax "If by prefer, he means "fix", then no, you are correct, they don't, but .........London Broncos v Catalans at either Old Trafford or Wembley would seriously test the devotion of many heartland fans and must feature highly in the list of Nightmare Scenarios for The RFL management Team.......IMO that is'"


Have they stopped putting the balls in the freezer the night before the draw?

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Catalan are penalised a lot because they play sh-thouse rough tactics, nothing more.'"


please, that's a fine comment from a Wire fan !

talk about the pot calling the kettle black ?

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Quote: gutterfax "What about them?

Other than Huddersfield, who didn't go down when maybe they should have, the other 3 have gone down and come back up...Widnes went down even though they didn't finish bottom and have entered and come out of admin.....as a club, they acted like a business when turned down for the first round of licences...there was no very public dummy-spit or meltdown as there was in Leigh.....there was no last game atendance announced that dragged the seasons average up to 2,500 exactly like there was at Halifax.......they presented the best plan in the eyes of the RFL.

Halifax and Leigh both nearly bankrupted themselves trying to stay in SL and as a result, they found themselves unable to "bounce back"......both clubs are now to be applauded for the way they are run and if they keep up this good work both on and off the field, they will get a licence, but some of their fans, especially the ones who say "we don't care about Superleague" do seem to post some bitter and twisted stuff regarding the competition they are glad their team isn't involved in
Widnes should have been accepted first time around (same situation as Wakefield this time who were accepted) but the reason they kept quiet was because it was blatently obvious that they hed been promised a place for 2012 as, once they had "ticked a box" on the field, they gave up trying and started preparing for SL.

As to Halifax in SL, they had 7 reasonable years (at least they weren't fighting relegation every year) with a best finish of 3rd. As to their subsequent relegation I'm not going through it all again as I'm sick of explaining it to people. Suffice it to say that, had it happened under today's rules, we would not have been relegated, would have cleared the historical debt we'd been carrying and had time to rebuild the squad as Bradford would have done if they had cut their team to the bone but instead they have flatly refused to release a single player and will still be in SL next year without a shadow of a doubt.

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Quote: gutterfax "If by prefer, he means "fix", then no, you are correct, they don't, but .........London Broncos v Catalans at either Old Trafford or Wembley would seriously test the devotion of many heartland fans and must feature highly in the list of Nightmare Scenarios for The RFL management Team.......IMO that is'"


Exactly. I never mentioned the word 'fix.' But as you say, a London Broncos vs. Catalans Challenge Cup Final/Grand Final would be most disappointing for the RFL, to say the least.

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Quote: Leon Ashton "Have they stopped putting the balls in the freezer the night before the draw?'"


Hmmm ..... What are you suggesting?

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Quote: sanjunien "penalty stats from the Toulouse Chapmpionship seasons prove the bias - something like a two or three to one in favour of the English clubs and TO13 were not a dirty side'"


Toulouse were a poor and indisciplined side - not necessarily dirty. They were constantly trying to slow games down when on the back foot, and they were on the back foot a lot in the Championship.

A bit like Widnes this season. That's why they top the current Penalty league on 225 and the Dragons are down in 6th place with only 184 penalties. There is only 13 points between the Dragons and Wakey in 12th place.

Let's be honest. There is, and has been, no conspiracy against the French. This is just out and out whinging by a frustrated club. Some of the decisions I've seen given against Widnes this season have been nothing short of disgraceful. The goal kick that was disallowed against the Saints was stunning in its complete incompetence. But that is what it is - incompetence and the odd bad call.

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Quote: Pepe "Toulouse were a poor and indisciplined side - not necessarily dirty. They were constantly trying to slow games down when on the back foot, and they were on the back foot a lot in the Championship.

A bit like Widnes this season. That's why they top the current Penalty league on 225 and the Dragons are down in 6th place with only 184 penalties. There is only 13 points between the Dragons and Wakey in 12th place.

Let's be honest. There is, and has been, no conspiracy against the French. This is just out and out whinging by a frustrated club. Some of the decisions I've seen given against Widnes this season have been nothing short of disgraceful. The goal kick that was disallowed against the Saints was stunning in its complete incompetence. But that is what it is - incompetence and the odd bad call.

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Toulouse were ill disciplined at times, especially in the final year when morale was at an all time low but they weren't a 'poor' side - about mid-table level but with the big disadvantage of having to fit in work committments with training and of course the gruelling travelling schedule which proved that any french side playing in SL or the Championship has to be made up of full time pros

let's be honest, there is a conspiracy against the french teams though it's an in-built northern bias which is inevitable with predominantly northern officials - it's not cheating just a leaning towards the UK sides but not helped by indiscipline from the french at times.

yes, it is whinging by a frustrated club and if you attended the Catalan home games this season you would feel the same way - don't tell people who have attended every Catalan home game this season otherwise unless you have been there to judge for yourself unless of course you have in which case I respectfully beg to differ.

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Quote: sanjunien "let's be honest, there is a conspiracy against the french teams though it's an in-built northern bias which is inevitable with predominantly northern officials - it's not cheating just a leaning towards the UK sides but not helped by indiscipline from the french at times.'"


No, there isn't.

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Quote: Wheels "No, there isn't.'"


if you say so pal...

how many Catalan games have you actually been to this season as a matter of interest ? on what do you base your opinion ?

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Catalans have been penalised the same amount of times as Leeds and Warrington, and less than Bradford, Salford, London, Hull & Widnes. I'm not sure how that proves a bias by northern officials against non-northern clubs.

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Quote: Him "Catalans have been penalised the same amount of times as Leeds and Warrington, and less than Bradford, Salford, London, Hull & Widnes. I'm not sure how that proves a bias by northern officials against non-northern clubs.'"


as a previous poster said, you can make stats prove anything you want

fact is that Catalans have had to play against the opposition plus the ref in all of the games i've seen this season at the GB

I can actually recall one incident when Mr Thaler missed an obvious forward pass by the Catalans to give them a crucial four points in the HKR game

two games, the Wires cup game and the Wigan game at Montpellier the Catalans were completely outplayed by the better team and deservedly lost but even then the reffing was appalling (for both sides)

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Quote: Wheels "No, there isn't.'"

There certainly wasn't at P O Road in 2008, in the CC when Ben Thaler disallowed what appeared to be a perfectly good try by Featherstone agains Catalans. It occurred within ten yards of where I was standing, he disallowed the try but gave no signal as to why he was disallowing it, he just signalled play on. I still don't know today what was wrong with it. Fev were nowhere near the team they are today, but Catalan were looking very shakey and that try might have been the straw that broke the camel's back - we shall never know.

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