A Super League including a strong Warrington, Widnes and Crusaders is something I really look forward to.

Your point being what exactly? Because we are both Widnes fans we should share exactly the same views on everything?

As you edited my post I don't know what you quoted me on

Since I never claimed that "Widnes has such a big fan base", I have no intention of answering your question, with or without insults.

In case you have forgotten already, what I did was point out how this statement of yours

please just explain to an ignoramus like me - why don't Widnes get crowds of 5K - 6K now ? where will all these extra fans suddenly appear from - Steve O'Connors' 'rent a crowd' maybe ?

not be long before you've reached a thousand posts will it.

You edited my post when you quoted me. You rightly said that analogies with football were innapropriate and I highlighted a previous post which did just that. Where's the problem?


I really feel the RFL shot themsleves in the foot by announcing that one Super League team would definitely lose their licence while a Championship would definitely get one. It was unecessary and has put them in the spotlight, drawing inevitable criticism from all quarters. The licences should go to the best fourteen clubs regardless of which division they are currently in.

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For my own part, I would like to see some sort of all-inclusive early season competition structure from which clubs would win a place (or not) in the main ten-team Super League season proper, which would then play through to a four or five team play-off series and Old Trafford Grand Final. Those who didn’t make it this year (ah well, there’s always next season) would compete in an expanded, televised and – given the profile of some of the clubs taking part – more glamorous Super League 2, Premiership, Championship…. call it what you will. Will this happen? I doubt it – but it would kill pretty much every bird with one stone. The lower clubs would no longer have anything to moan about and could be rewarded for their efforts. We would have the greater intensity of top-level playing competition that we need and maybe even space for a mid-season tour down under. Now there’s a thought.

But no-one has claimed that we have a fanbase as big as the likes of Wigan or Leeds. Our current fan base and known SL fan base is very positive, and should be looked on optimistically. As you said yourself, we now have a man in charge that will pull out all the stops to ensure it grows. This should make us one of the best supported clubs in SL and help it become stable and possibly even profitable. This is what SL needs. Some SL clubs struggle to get much more than we do in the Championship and quite often our individual attendance figures exceed them.



Cas did, but Cas have never spent the amount of time we have in the lower leagues. Hull KR didn’t, until their very successful promotion year. Before that they we averaging around 2,000. That just goes to show how a club can grow in Super League and just how pointless it is to make a big issue out of how many fans come through the gates in the Championship.

Quite simply they will only watch either top tier RL or watch when there is something to actually play for , like promotion decided by on field performance , you are now actually starting to annoy everybody including myself , I thought at first you were actually interested , now I am begining to think you are either an idiot or a wind up merchant , or both

The same place they came from the last time we were promoted. We were getting crowds in the NFP similar to what we get now in the championship. SL will bring the lost fans back and then SOC will get to work and we can bring in even more from within our own borough and further South in Cheshire and West in South Liverpool.

You know - expansion!

Rumour going round that Richard Moore is on his way to Crusaders. A very ordinary signing if true.