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| There are many chickens being counted in East Hull, or miscounted perhaps. Must be hard to count with only 3 fingers and twelve toes.
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "Hull won't get anywhere near the level of performance from him that Saints have had. Great when things are going well, anonymous when they aren't, he won't have the players around him to show his class.
You can have a nice, shiney golden bucket, but if you fill it with sh*t it's still just a bucket of sh*t.'"
Oh sorry I thought you were describing Paul Cooke.
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "So do you honestly think Long will be just as good at Hull as he is/has been at Saints? Over the past 10 years Saints have had a special group of players playing together at one time, you can't just break that apart and expect them to be just as good with mediocre players.
And for the record, I'm not one of those people who says "'ere, he's only any cop 'cos Saints make 'im look good" (nice phonetics though). Sean Long is a class player but the other class players he's had around him add an extra 15% to his game, in my opinion.'"
Man for man we are not as good as Saints, but on our day we aren't far off. Yeaman, Raynor, Manu, Horne, Washbrook, Briscoe, Calderwood. They are all extremely dengerous players when given service, up with the best in the league imo, but they havn't had any since Paul Cooke left (Manu, Briscoe and Calderwood have never had any at all). Look at Yeaman the season when he was called up for GB. 23 tries in 20 games or something stupid like that. He and Cooke were devastating down that left side. Yeaman hasn't all of a sudden become a bad player. He just doesn't see any ball these days. Long can hopefully give us some width and a good kicking game and it will let the players mentioned above shine.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Man for man we are not as good as Saints, but on our day we aren't far off. Yeaman, Raynor, Manu, Horne, Washbrook, Briscoe, Calderwood. They are all extremely dengerous players when given service, up with the best in the league imo, but they havn't had any since Paul Cooke left (Manu, Briscoe and Calderwood have never had any at all). Look at Yeaman the season when he was called up for GB. 23 tries in 20 games or something stupid like that. He and Cooke were devastating down that left side. Yeaman hasn't all of a sudden become a bad player. He just doesn't see any ball these days. Long can hopefully give us some width and a good kicking game and it will let the players mentioned above shine.'"
good post.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Man for man we are not as good as Saints, but on our day we aren't far off.'"
Agreed, on paper anyway. Unfrotunately we seem to lack passion, and despite Saints been a very skillful side IMO their biggest asset is their workrate.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Man for man we are not as good as Saints, but on our day we aren't far off. '"
As skillful as Saints are they 'have their day' more often then not thanks to their commitment and workrate. On paper our squad is pretty strong, on the pitch they let themselves down badly.
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| Quote: BenG "Yes.
(I assume) Hull have offered him significantly more money than Saints did. In RL the practice of signing big name vets. Is indicative of a 2nd tied team that needs either the gate money (un-likely) or wants to take the short-term lift over long-term planning (most probably).
Think Robbie Paul - Bradford to Hudds then Salford.
Think Paul Newlove - Saints to Castleford
Think Mick Cassidy - Wigan to Widnes
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Thing Sean Long - Saints to Hull'"
David Furner? Paul Anderson? Shane Millard? Chris McKenna?
All moved from one big club to another when over 30
Oh, and Long turned down a big offer from Wigan to sign for us too
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| Quote: The Key "David Furner? Paul Anderson? Shane Millard? Chris McKenna?
All moved from one big club to another when over 30
Oh, and Long turned down a big offer from Wigan to sign for us too'"
One common denominator: All forwards
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| Quote: Uptoncat "One common denominator
Alfie Langer played SOO at 36, and won the game for the Maroons
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Alfie Langer played SOO at 36, and won the game for the Maroons'"
Probably the best performance I've ever seen from a scrum half, too.
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "Probably the best performance I've ever seen from a scrum half, too.'"
It was amazing, he absolutely refused to loose!
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| Quote: Saint Simon "It was amazing, he absolutely refused to loose!'"
loose or lose?
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| Quote: Bilko "I bet Long ends up retired injured before his two years is up. Just reminds me of Paul Newlove going as an OAP to Cas. He didn't last long.'"
Newlove was Fev' through and through. Helping Castleford getting relegated was probably a perfect end to his career in his eyes.
Long has been a great player for Saints and should provide the direction that Hull FC need. Anyone that says Sean Long has not turned up in the big games obviously supports a team that does not play in many of them.
A good signing for Hull FC. HKR are proof that you can turn round round things in a short space of time. I am sure Hull will be a better team at the end of his 2 years.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "Newlove was Fev' through and through. Helping Castleford getting relegated was probably a perfect end to his career in his eyes.
Long has been a great player for Saints and should provide the direction that Hull FC need. Anyone that says Sean Long has not turned up in the big games obviously supports a team that does not play in many of them.
A good signing for Hull FC. HKR are proof that you can turn round round things in a short space of time. I am sure Hull will be a better team at the end of his 2 years.'" He did mention in an interview something about coaching too to maybe we have offered him the possibilty of a coaching role when he is through?
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| Quote: JB Down Under "First Fitzgibbon,now long, it'll be like Dad's army at the KC next year! They certainly won't lack "experience" in the side!
HULL FC PLAYERS TAKE UP FENCING IN PRE SEASON TRAINING!
'"Hope youre looking after Shayne McMenemy down there
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