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Quote: Bobbin' Along "Better to fill our team with marquee signings and to hell with the salary cap.
Not that anyone in SL would do that.
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Quote: Dico "You made a legal challenge to change the rules.
As I said earlier, you wont win anything with 10 average aussies'"


Individual players whose livelihoods were at risk made the initial legal challenge. Finigan and the Henderson brothers were the first iirc. They were born in the UK, but came through the Australian systems - which in theory is what the fed-trained designation is meant to be about. Now I admit that just about everybody here for the start of the 2008 season ending up exempt has slowed down the process, but I expect a good number of clubs will have more than their 5 next year. It's not like we're sinners in a sea of restraint and virtue. It will get there though if the RFL stick with it. England might still be poo - depends whether lack of demand is the cause of the lack of supply. Doubt it personally, but worth checking.

We mightn't win anything with 10 'average aussies', but let's be honest - we'll have a much better chance than we would without them.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Is it really acceptable to try and seek advantage by employing more overseas players than everyone else to the detriment of young british players.'"


Yes, because in the words of the prophet...

Quote: SmokeyTA "They provide better value because we simply dont have that many english players coming through, so a 2nd/3rd tier aussie stuggling to make any money out in Aus like Charlie Leeano can come over here and get a decent full time wage. Sadly Leeano as probably a 4th tier australian is as good as most british players.'"




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Quote: JB Down Under "If Smokey had his way SL would be weakend and diluted to the point where games regularly blew out by 50+ points, intensity was virtually non existant past 3 or 4 teams and England would continue to suffer from a lack of exposure for the top players to strong teams every week. But it would be good for RL!'"


Not true, if he had his way every possible advantage would be bestowed upon former champions Leeds and every possible disadvantage would be bestowed upon every other team...particularly this seasons' home and away victors over the former champions, Hull KR.

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Quote: Barnacle Bill "Not true, if he had his way every possible advantage would be bestowed upon former champions Leeds and every possible disadvantage would be bestowed upon every other team...particularly this seasons' home and away victors over the former champions, Hull KR.'"
Incorrect.
If Smokey had his way HKR would be kicked out of RL period.
Lets he honest.
We could sort out CP so it held 15,000 we could have a youth system the provived all 17 of an England side that became a dominant force for 10 years, with £2M profit a year.
He would then go on to start complaining about the colour of the Bog rolls at CP.
Why you lot even bother trying to argue/reason with the idiot is beyond me.

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Quote: Roverswall "Incorrect.
If Smokey had his way HKR would be kicked out of RL period.
Lets he honest.
We could sort out CP so it held 15,000 we could have a youth system the provived all 17 of an England side that became a dominant force for 10 years, with £2M profit a year.
He would then go on to start complaining about the colour of the Bog rolls at CP.
Why you lot even bother trying to argue/reason with the idiot is beyond me.'"


I stopped a while ago , he really is quite annoying at times icon_lol.gif

Thing is though is he posts that much crap he forgets what he's posted , and quite often then drops himself in it later on icon_wink.gif

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I would love to know what's behind his pathological hatred of our club, but instead I just revel in the fact that we annoy him so much.

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I like him. Relentlessly argumentative and gets 44 pages of a ragbag of Rovers posters trying to justify 10 overseas players with a collective, desperate justification that amounts to "we're only bending the rules as far as is humanly possible, don't judge us until 2020". Nice work Smokey. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Bobbin' Along "I would love to know what's behind his pathological hatred of our club, but instead I just revel in the fact that we annoy him so much.'"
TBH I think I have a fair idea.

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Quote: Starbug "I stopped a while ago , he really is quite annoying at times
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Quote: Mrs Barista "I like him. Relentlessly argumentative and gets 44 pages of a ragbag of Rovers posters trying to justify 10 overseas players with a collective, desperate justification that amounts to "we're only bending the rules as far as is humanly possible, don't judge us until 2020". Nice work Smokey.
We're not bending the rules as far as is humanly possible though. If we'd hoovered up everybody else's fed-qualified overseas players, then I'd feel a bit more guilty by association. Though not very. Think skin me.
What we've done is use quota spots as players we signed prior to the 2008 season came off quota. We haven't signed a fed-qualified foreigner from any other club - like when you wanted to sign Galea for Hull but only if he was off quota. icon_wink.gif
Hull intend to do the same if your forum is to be believed - Rovelli coming in now Berrigan is fed-qualified. And Manu getting off quota allowed you to keep Cusack for an extra year - is that right? Hull KR have done nothing different to Hull FC - just that we have had the opportunity to do it more. If Hull had had the opportunities that Rovers have had, if Dykes, Byrne and Cusack had been younger, fitter and able to find an Irish granny eusa_think.gif

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Do not apologise for your club doing what is best for your club

All the others are doing exactly the same

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The answer to overseas players in the English game is simple , the central funding from the RFL/SKY should be adjusted for the number of fed trained players you have , but the same rules should apply to ALL clubs , no exceptions

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Thick skin, I meant. Possibly Freudian.

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Quote: Mild Rover "We're not bending the rules as far as is humanly possible though. If we'd hoovered up everybody else's fed-qualified overseas players, then I'd feel a bit more guilty by association. Though not very. Think skin me.
What we've done is use quota spots as players we signed prior to the 2008 season came off quota. We haven't signed a fed-qualified foreigner from any other club - like when you wanted to sign Galea for Hull but only if he was off quota. 5.12109375:5
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