By that logic there will be no Wigan players in the squad then.

I like Danny McGuire.
I think, more than any other half in SL, he is a lad who plays with his head up and constantly looks for the right move, whether it be a player retreating slowly, the defence numbering up wrong, etc. Many other halves seem driven to run the training ground moves no matter what.

I think you are correct, we don,t need any of them , O'Loughlin is more adaptive perhaps.

James Roby is the only one of the 3 players in question to be world class so he'll go.

I saw Clark at LP last week and he looked shot and way off the pace so I would take McILorum as back up and a good variation to Roby's style.

Roby can play 80 minutes at a freakishly high work rate and quality which gives you the option of another forward on the bench to overpower the Aussie pack.

I'd take all three to be honest as if Roby gets hurt you need two players to replace him.

James Roby is pure class and he proved it in the WC. In the first game he was superb and he is certainly the main choice and has been one of the best players in SL (again) this season.

I would play him for the 80mins.

I'm sure all this talk about McIlorum was said pre-World Cup and he was a massive disappointment. Imo he's had his chance and when people talk about how hard he hits then that says it all for me. He's not an international standard hooker. Far from it. Though he's a good SL player and suits wigan well.

I'm not sure Clark is quite ready yet. He needs to develop his game and he will do that at warrington as he matures.

I'd go for Lunt. I think he's an excellent hooker and would back Roby up if he's injured well

rlOPTA Statsrl are saying what most of us are thinking - James Roby is immense.

A season score of 724.75. That's a big jump up from the next best of Liam Farrell(632) and two guys touted as Man Of Steel contenders Jamie Peacock (61icon_cool.gif and Chris Hill (563).

Are Australia or New Zealand selecting two Hookers in their 17?

You wonder why England are third in a three Horse race.
Behind the times.

Clark and Roby.

Roby is a no brainer. Head and shoulders above everyone else. I would take Clark as back up.

MM is just the latest in a long line of stupidly overated wigan players.

Regards

King James

Before the WC, I was saying that MM had staked a good claim to get a run in the side.

I was at the Fiji game, he had very little impact for me. Did not do anything massively wrong from what I recall, but I did not see any great disribution or fearsome tackling.

It's always a tough call as GB/England sides always split fans along loyalties to club men.

Do I like MM? No.
Would I have him at Saints? No
Would I give him one more whirl at international level before shutting that door? Maybe

Fiji was a damp squib for him, but one match does not test a player. A full test series will let us know if he is decent enough at that level.

I don't need a full test series to tell me that James Roby for 80 minutes is a better bet than James Roby + A N Other

He's light years ahead of MM

My point is that we know Roby will be fine, but we have to take another player and I would be tempted to take MM as he has only had one shot at international level. Yes he did not impress, but one match or part of a match is not enough to consign him to the bin of international RL.

We did that far too often in the past with our halfbacks.

He does bring something to Wigan, whilst he is not at Roby's level, if Roby was to be injured we would need another 80 minute player and to me that would be MM.


Can I go wash now.

Roby and Lunt