Sargison did well enough last year to be given a shot again. He also did what far too few players picked for England do - play better than expected.

Just to show I'm not biased because he plays for Wigan, Charnley OTOH was exposed - again - as simply not physical enough for internationals.

There's a "new" player on the block, who may have played centre.

Must be worth a punt on the recently signed pension seeking crock Gidley! ( he could have an " home nations" relative) and who really cares if he has already played for the Aussies, it not that there's a hard and fast rule anymore who plays for who at international level

Wire certainly rate him compared to other "talent" they have developed

Warrington have been developing young players and thrusting them into first team action on a regular basis.....that's if you read the Leeds board of the Tony Smith fan club who think he can do no wrong.

Can't believe no-ones mentioned Kris Welham yet. Head and shoulders above any centre this season.

It's the way you tell 'em!

Leaving aside the question - maybe SLS has just got the brains and the inclination to do what almost everyone else these days on message boards either can't or won't: argue his case in detail so others can grasp what he's saying fully instead of spewing out Twitteresque-length decrees which, despite lacking all context and substance, are delivered with all the certainty of Moses laying down the Ten Commandments.

Exactly Muggy.

Some dimwit didn't understand the terminology used and SLS explained it perfectly.

And just for the record, it is a myth that international selections are from the top teams. The champions had no representation for England in the four nations. Paranoid on this forum!

The point you are making is silly. I don't think there's anyone in the country who thinks EVERY SINGLE PLAYER at the most successful clubs is demonstrably "better" than his opposite number at Huddersfield.

However, successful clubs are ... well ... successful. Unless you are suggesting Saints, Wigan, Leeds etc. win by magic or bribery or whatever - you have to conclude these clubs possess some kind of superiority in playing staff. Which means any national coach must automatically assume the very real liklihood that player X operating in position Y at, say, Leeds is a better option than his opposite number at Huddersfield.

To deny this truth from the outset is every bit as foolish as the error you keep accusing others of making.



Was Jerry McGillvary kidnapped at gunpoint and forced to sign a contract with Huddersfield? Of course not. He joined the club with open eyes and knew from the outset that given Huddersfield's lack of success he'd have to not only equal the feats of his peers at the top four but exceed them. He hasn't done this. Or would you have us believe that an English coach desperately attempting to be the first man to break the forty-odd year Australian hoodoo would rather LOSE THE MATCH selecting a player from the top four than WIN IT (thus sealing his place in history, enjoying countless career spin-offs, possibly even a Knighthood) by playing a better man from Huddersfield?

Watkins on 1 side (assuming he hasn't forgot his qualities once Leeds get him off the wing). Shenton on the other.

At least we have a few choices we can argue over now in the threequarters (and full back). Not so long ago - when Tony Smith was coach to be precise the options were frighteningly bad 1-5.

True, that.

Lee Smith- -shudder!

Ade Gardner - shudder!

Bias perhaps, but I haven't seen a better classic centre than Percival knocking around sl.

He'll be comfortably the best centre in the league within 12 months barring injury IMO and I wouldn't swap him for anyone, including Watkins.

A real pleasure to watch, a classy craftsman of a centre. Hope the NRL leave him alone but I doubt it.

In my Humble opinion the best we've got available are

Watkins
Reed
Percival
Wardle
Atkins
Bridge
Sarginson
Shenton
Cudjoe

I'm not too bothered about Percival playing for England just yet. Granted, he probably deserves a run in either the team or the squad. But he's still very young and has a lot more development in him before he reaches his peak.

I do agree with a lot of the statements about him, tho. Very reminiscent of Paul Newlove in his style of play. Just like Newy you give him the outside at your peril. Great fend. Great body swerve. Rock solid defence (which is something Newlove was always criticised for - despite the fact that he missed fewer tackles than any British centre I've seen since Gary Connolly).

Another one of Radford's master-strokes, turning a 2013 SL dream team player into a not wanted loanee at Donny, at pretty much any other club could have progressed on, super naturally talented centre now adrift behind a lot of established Parramatta backs. He's scored a few tries for the Magpies though.