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I don’t agree that there is a huge difference between the amount of RL players in Dewsbury, Batley, Hunslet, Fev and their surrounding areas, and they survive as RL hotbeds without SL representation. In Leeds Rhinos we have one club, which represents a comparatively huge area and we don’t see Headingley as the only RL hotbed in the area.
Castleford are surrounded by Wakefield, Leeds, Bradford and Huddersfield. Surely that is enough clubs to see that Castleford can continue to have plenty of pathways and access to carry on being a hotbed.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I don’t agree that there is a huge difference between the amount of RL players in Dewsbury, Batley, Hunslet, Fev and their surrounding areas, and they survive as RL hotbeds without SL representation. In Leeds Rhinos we have one club, which represents a comparatively huge area and we don’t see Headingley as the only RL hotbed in the area.
Castleford are surrounded by Wakefield, Leeds, Bradford and Huddersfield. Surely that is enough clubs to see that Castleford can continue to have plenty of pathways and access to carry on being a hotbed.'"
So if Leeds were to disappear from SL for whatever reason, does this mean RL in the city would be unaffected ? |
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I don’t think that’s the comparison though is it. Leeds is a relatively huge area, representing a relatively huge area compared to Castleford. The question wouldn’t be would RL be affected in Leeds if the Rhinos disappeared it would be how does Leeds continue to produce players from across the city when there isn’t an SL team in Rothwell, Wetherby, Morley, Horsforth, Alwoodly, Pudsey, Bramley, Hunslet?
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The clubs need to justify inclusion by what they offer, rather than what they need.
It's true that certain clubs offer more than others - If Wigan or Leeds disappeared, it'd be a bigger blow. But even then we'd move on and evolve.
At the moment, I think pretty much every club offers something worthwhile. If we really had to batten down the hatches, we could regrettfully lose a couple maybe. Going to 10 would be a big sacrifice, without many clear, likely or well-defined gains to balance it. IMO.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "The clubs need to justify inclusion by what they offer, rather than what they need.
It's true that certain clubs offer more than others - If Wigan or Leeds disappeared, it'd be a bigger blow. But even then we'd move on and evolve.
At the moment, I think pretty much every club offers something worthwhile. If we really had to batten down the hatches, we could regrettfully lose a couple maybe. Going to 10 would be a big sacrifice, without many clear, likely or well-defined gains to balance it. IMO.'"
But we wouldn't lose them though, they could easily be in a very strong 10 team 2nd Division with a promotion spot up for grabs. |
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| Quote: TFC "You would like to think that Fax/Leigh want Super League in the near future, Widnes achieved it so why can't other clubs? Without investment there will be no Super League for these clubs, however there is more potential for growth at Leigh than there is in Wales. Do you think there is a way in for Leigh / Fax?
I think Leigh could double their fan base in 2 years, absolutely.'"
Wanting something is one thing, affording it is another
As I said Widnes had double the fan base, massive sponsorship and a very rich owner, so tell me who will invest in a club outside SL with not much chance of getting in
Is there a way? , no
Well away you go Einstien, how do we double our fan base? |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wheels "But we wouldn't lose them though, they could easily be in a very strong 10 team 2nd Division with a promotion spot up for grabs.'"
I'm surprised the swear filter hasn't kicked in here  |
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| Quote: Starbug "I'm surprised the swear filter hasn't kicked in here ![]()
Funny thing is, my suggestion would see the team I support 'Relegated' to Division 3... But at least they would be at a much more appropriate level.
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wheels "
An ' appropriate ' level initially, but able to improve that level by performing on the pitch 
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| Quote: Starbug "An ' appropriate ' level initially, but able to improve that level by performing on the pitch ![]()
It'll never catch on!
I completely understand that licensing is meant to bring clubs up to the 'elite' level, and while everybody insists on having 14 teams in SL I will support franchising, as it's the only way clubs will get a decent go at SL. The problem is IMO the gap will always remain the same (huge)... Surely a simple league restructure would be better?
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| Quote: Wheels "
There'll be no change in numbers before the end of this licensed period,so if they were to go to two 10 team leagues in 2015 then york would need to finish in the top six,imo thats possible don't you think?
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| Quote: Starbug "An ' appropriate ' level initially, but able to improve that level by performing on the pitch ![]()
Dont bring on field performance into the arguement, modern RL is about box ticking, not playing "the greatest game".
Anyway, how do you propose the cull ? would it be based on the SL type criteria ie. ground, attendances, community work, finance, whether the RFL "owns" your ground, development club status or league position ?
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wheels "It'll never catch on!
I completely understand that licensing is meant to bring clubs up to the 'elite' level, and while everybody insists on having 14 teams in SL I will support franchising, as it's the only way clubs will get a decent go at SL. The problem is IMO the gap will always remain the same (huge)... Surely a simple league restructure would be better?'"
To tell the truth I've given over bothering about it anymore, I couldn't care less what happens to SL
As long as Leigh remain in business, and I feel like watching, I'll go, thats about it really, everything else I put on here is just to annoy people  |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Dont bring on field performance into the arguement, modern RL is about box ticking, not playing "the greatest game".
Anyway, how do you propose the cull ? would it be based on the SL type criteria ie. ground, attendances, community work, finance, whether the RFL "owns" your ground, development club status or league position ?'"
See my post above |
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| Quote: j.c "There'll be no change in numbers before the end of this licensed period,so if they were to go to two 10 team leagues in 2015 then york would need to finish in the top six,imo thats possible don't you think?'"
With Fev, Fax, Leigh, Sheffield & Batley.... Possibly. |
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