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Even though i knew it would, this thread has given me a headache.

How can it be unfair on anyone team when each club and all its staff know the rules before the start of the competition?

Surely Leeds ain't the only ones to know how it works.

Saints have as much chance this year as the did in 2007 & 2008.
One off games are exactly that.

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Quote: Walrus "I think whoever finishes top after playing everybody home and away over a season (a la football) should be champions as this is the fairest method.

Playoffs are cup type games which put a bigger weighting onto home/away call, injuries or the day, recent form as opposed to form over a season, weather (which seems to affect some teams) and lots of other short term variables which may not reflect the variables over a season.

Always feel sorry for the team finishing top who is then not champions due to not turning up in one game or injuries to key personnel etc'"


Playoffs can't be compared to the Challenge Cup IMO because as the playoffs are held over consecutive weeks there is more of a consistency element about them, and also the consequences of losing in the playoffs or Grand Final are much higher.

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What happens when 8th plays 1st in the final, the 1st team wins 22 games out of 27 games goes into the final with loads of injuries.
8th team wins 12 games out of 27 games are at full strength and win the game on a controversial video decision.
Are the 8th team Really Superleague champions and possibly turning out to be an embarrassment in the World Club game.
When this scenario happens will the play off system change.

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i agree its better that it stops a team been champions with weeks to go,& i do like the play offs n wouldnt get rid of em.i just think its a bit unfair on the team who finishes top of the league.league champions should be the best most consistant team over a season.if a team won the grand final after finishing 7 or 8 in the league,they would be champions,would you consider them to be the best team in the league.or just the best team of the last month

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If you think about what that 8th placed team had to do during the playoffs to get to the GF, you'll agree that a win there confirms them as champions.

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I really don't buy into this argument. It is clear at the start of the season what the most important prize is. If you're team tries it's best to finish first but at the expense of being to tired to carry on till the playoffs then that's bad management. Also all these saints fans saying we are by far the most consistent team every year you have won the league by 1 point the last two seasons. So to say you are far more consistent is utter rubbish.

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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos " Also all these saints fans saying we are by far the most consistent team every year you have won the league by 1 point the last two seasons. So to say you are far more consistent is utter rubbish.'"


But saints have won more games in the last 3 seasons than any other team, so factually aren't they indeed the most consistent team so far.

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Quote: Judder Man "But saints have won more games in the last 3 seasons than any other team, so factually aren't they indeed the most consistent team so far.'"


But not when it matters.

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The Championship is decided by a combination of the most consistent club and the team that plays the best when it matters. It's the ultimate test of both elements of league and cup rugby, and is deservedly the highest accolade for this reason.

That being said, there is not enough importance put on being the League winners. The hub cap is terrible, and the Saints players never seem bothered when they are given it. There are no fireworks, no major celebration, no nothing. It is an important trophy to win and should be treated as such, even if it isn't as important as winning the GF.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "But not when it matters.'"


But saints have won more Superleague Finalsthan any other team, so are they not the most consistent team so far in the competion.

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Quote: Judder Man "But saints have won more Superleague Finalsthan any other team, so are they not the most consistent team so far in the competion.'"


But not recently. 1 SLGF win in 6 years vs Bradford's 2 and Leeds' 3.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "But not recently. 1 SLGF win in 6 years vs Bradford's 2 and Leeds' 3.'"


By my mathematics Saints have won the superleague trophy 5 times, against the Bulls 3 times and the Rhinos 3 times.
So I'm assumiing your theory is a recent 3 times is greater than 5 times, so we will accept your theory against factual.

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Quote: Judder Man "What happens when 8th plays 1st in the final, the 1st team wins 22 games out of 27 games goes into the final with loads of injuries.
8th team wins 12 games out of 27 games are at full strength and win the game on a controversial video decision.
Are the 8th team Really Superleague champions.'"


Yes

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Quote: Judder Man "By my mathematics Saints have won the superleague trophy 5 times, against the Bulls 3 times and the Rhinos 3 times.
So I'm assumiing your theory is a recent 3 times is greater than 5 times, so we will accept your theory against factual.'"
fully agree . dont worry about wellsy13 , he is just spamming troll icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif

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hmm maybe it would help if prize money was dished out on league placing rather than playoff placing.
You could still divide the gates between the teams evenly but prize money be allocated to league finishing position.

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