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Quote: Judder Man "Walmsley is not playing to his potential and I suspect Taylor is playing to full potential due to good workload balance with the Hull team.

Taylor

If you are going to use stats, then you need to use them all, his meters are only more as he takes more drives, Taylor's average gain is better is far better from Taylor than both, more tackles and less misses than both.

Also Taylor has given away 6 pens, compared to amor 15 and Walmsley 17.

So Walmsley is better at breaking tackles and offloading, but Taylor makes more metres per run and is a far better disciplined defender.

Apart from offloads Taylor's stats are all better than Amor.

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Quote: Judder Man "Stats are showing Amor and Walmsley far superior when it comes to Tackle Busts, Metres Made and Offloads (Prop Work) and doing hard yards in a very poor team. Taylor is better in defence and is playing well in a very good team.'"


Taylor has more tackle busts than Amor

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Quote: Dave K. "

So Walmsley is better at breaking tackles and offloading, but Taylor makes more metres per run and is a far better disciplined defender.

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But if Walmsley is offloading 4 times as much as Taylor then surely its probable that some of the players he offloads to is adding extra metres per tackle. Yes Taylor is a much better defender because Hull are a well organised team, Saints have been poor in this department.

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Quote: Judder Man "

Walmsley is a great prop, but was disappointing at the start of the year, was getting critism from own fans, I want my props to do more than just offload, over the season Taylor has been a better prop and deserves to be on the Dream Team this year.

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Shaul
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Houghton
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Quote: Judder Man "Walmsley is not playing to his potential and I suspect Taylor is playing to full potential due to good workload balance with the Hull team.

Taylor


If taylor was flogged every week like walmsley is then he'd be streets ahead but he doesn't need to be.

Like I said, walmsley was quality last year but is miles off that form this year. hill and taylor are the best 2 props in SL this season

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Quote: Dave K. "Shaul
Solomona
Atkins
Gelling
Manfrani
Williams
Gale
Hill
Houghton
Taylor
Currie
Stewert
Ellis'"


Manfredi hasn't been the best winger at Wigan this year never mind top 2 in SL. Gelling and Williams spent too much time on the sidelines to be considered.

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Dorn
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Fonua
Gelling
Johnstone
Miller
Gale
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Houghton
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Currie
Minichello
Westerman

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Shaul
Solomona
Atkins
Fonua
Broughton
Turner?
Gale/Sneyd
Hill
Houghton
Taylor
Stewart
Minichiello
Ellis

Shaul has dropped off recently and struggling to name the best 6 this season. Minichiello has been unreal again this season, although I think he'll miss out.

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Quote: Judder Man "Quality of Players for the Dream team is poor these days. 10 out of the 13 below played in the same seasons these individual players nominated the most (*) for there team position.

Paul Wellens (4)
Jason Robinson (5)
Gary Connolly (3)
Keith Senior (5)
Ryan Hall (4)
Danny McQuire (3)
Rob Burrow (3)
James Graham (4)
James Roby (5)
Jamie Peacock (11)
Gareth Ellis (4)
Ben Westwood (4)
Andrew Farrell (6)

Quality players who didn't get on the list but played in a couple of those seasons
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Quote: Dave K. "Shaul
Solomona
Atkins
Gelling
Manfrani
Williams
Gale
Hill
Houghton
Taylor
Currie
Stewert
Ellis'"



Gale over Sandow? behave.

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Williams
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Hill
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Taylor
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Cahill


The team will probably include half the Wigan team, a couple of pity picks from Warrington Saints and Hull and Kevin Sinfield.

...

Oh. and Sean O'Laughlin will be nailed on for loose forward after them blinding 3 games he had.

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Quote: moving on... "Shaul

Solomona
Atkins
Fonua
Broughton

Williams
Sandow

Hill
Houghton
Taylor
Currie
Bateman
Cahill


The team will probably include half the Wigan team, a couple of pity picks from Warrington Saints and Hull and Kevin Sinfield.

...

Oh. and Sean O'Laughlin will be nailed on for loose forward after them blinding 3 games he had.'"


Cahill over Ellis? Behave.

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Shaul
Solomona
Currie
Atkins
Thompson
Sandow
Gale
Taylor
Houghton
Ellis
Moors
Minichiello
Westerman


Honourable mentions for Dorn/Hanbury at full-back, Talanoa and Manfredi on the wing (though Charnley has better stats), centre Fonua/Cudjoe are worth a shout but we've really struggled for a decent consistent one this year. I did think about throwing Gildart in there too.

Halves tough. Sandow has been injured a lot and Sneyd has generally been good. I'd also throw in Joe Mellor too.

Props you can throw in Hill and Walmsley and I'd have put Lynch in was it not for injury either.

Hooker was Roby and I'd also chip in McShane from Cas who has had a fab season.

Back-row Bateman and Murdoch-Masila (for the first half of the season) and maybe Sika Manu.

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