Totally agree mate, they're adults at the end of the day and the punishment fits the crime.

McNamara had no choice.

ShelleyGiant, you've written the post I was just about to write - spot on - what a bunch of pathetic individuals!

Widdop can't play 7.

Widdop will be on the bench I reckon, he can cover a lot of positions in the backs.

1 and 6.

It is totally childish to get p***ed (if that's what happened) under the circumstances. If people have done so it is right they should be dropped (if that's what happened). It is also good in that we should have a couple of top players fresh and raring to go for later matches (if the knuckle down).

+1 Losing O'Loughlin really damages the back row, Farrell is not a bench player and lacks size, and I worry that they will be tempted to put Sinfield at 13, which is just asking for the pack to be a pushover.

We missed the opportunity to draft Crabtree with Hock leaving, the props really appear to lack experience without Graham.



Jack Reed plays on the left, though it's moot as he's injured.

The amount of penalties Hock gives away means he will be no loss as good as he is.
Graham is one of the best props in the world and England dont have many of the best players in the world.

This is the first time im 100% England will lose.
OZ team just looks unbeatable and a few of our players are not international class in my opinion although Im sure with their ability will not let anyone down.

yep think this will be it.

cant see ablett having much of an impact from the bench though, hope tom burgess steps up , needs too

Graham missing is a massive loss for our pack against the aussies

oloughlin prob not fit enough

Im ready to be proven wrong, but I dont think Mossop, Hill, Ablett, and Farrell are international class

I'm a huge fan of Graham. But Graham left the coach with no option.

It's the correct decision and the players have let themselves and the country down.

Peacock would have been nice to have in the team

I think it's time to move on and focus on the game now! What's happened has happened. For me (and I'm not mcbananas biggest fan!) he had no option but to leave them out.

Just imagine if we push them close! Or even worse imagine of we actually win!

This without the best prop, some would say best hooker and SOL!

Then and only then will positivity rein on RL Fans again!

Let's get behind the lads who are playing and not worry about the ones who arn't!

Nah don't be daft, it'd be a weak Aussie team or, an old classic, the Aussies threw the first game!