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| Quote: PHIPPS "So enlighten us as to how you can achieve that?'"
A coherent marketing strategy that involves all levels of Rugby League would be a start. There are several things that could be tried, but would take a little imagination, dynamic pricing being one of them. I would consider selling so many tickets at a certain price. Once we sell a high enough amount of them, we can crow about how successful the game is going to be record season tickets etc. Obviously, this idea that I wrote down in a few seconds has not been costed out yet, but where there is a will there is a way.
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| Quote: gutterfax "Toughie this....but it could be done.
Second May Bank Holiday and either Wembley (maybe a bit too big to start with) or a 40k/50k wendyball stadium.
Late May gives the pitch plenty of time to recover before the ladies start kicking it around again....so no pitch problems there.
There are no shortage of cheaper hotel rooms at the wekends in London. Regardless of where you hold it, people will complain about the cost of a hotel room......you get what you pay for IMO!
Travelling from anywhere along the M62 to London has got to be easier than to Cardiff.
SELL THE BUGGERY OUT OF IT!
I agree with the earlier posters comments about the RFL not knowing how to promote their game properly, but If the Union Lot can fill Twickenham on boxing day or whenever for a single game of union (not a final, Not a double header, just a normal club game) then surely we can fill a 40 or 50k stadium in the capital.
Also, if it were to be played in London, maybe some of the 1,000,000 League fans that the RFL live there might roll up too.......just a thought.
Oh,,and free pies and strippers too
I agree with most of this. The only trouble with the May bank holidays in London are that the early one is still the football season and the late one is playy off finals season. Thus ruling out Wembley as I can't see the FA allowing 7 games on the first weekend just weeks before their finals programme which also includes the FA cup in the intrim period.
In terms of football stadiums which I assume you would be talking about as they are the only ones with suitable capacity. Early May is out due to football season still on. Arsenal's stadium would be my prefared choice. Its straight up from Euston, St Pancreas and Kings Cross on the tube. Also allows for overnight stays in cheaper and rural Hertfordshire if you don't want to stay in London. I just don't see an overly sensitive local community allowing for yet more disruption to their lives. I say this from knowledge having worked at the stadium and knowing what had to be done to placate the locals, as opposed to a random statement.
Spurs ground is not the best and only 35,000. Its not the best to travel to and does not have a great deal around it if you want to nip out in between games.
Upton Park, who knows what will happen to that now, but its got the same problems as the area around Spurs ground.
Chelsea's ground might be a starter, nice area reasonably good transport links, just very expensive area for accomodation and food and drink.
I can't see any other ground being suitable in London either in May or any other time of year, at least unil the Olympic stadium is built. Though lets face it with all this garbage about stadiums going under if the are multi purpose (Thats the talk from the Spurs camp and football journalists who have some fancyful blah about no atmosphere with an athletics track) the Olympic stadiummay just be an attractive concept. Though way out in East London it isn't going to help Quins in West London.
Has anyone thought about next years CC Final. Planned for the middle of the Olympics when Wembley is being used for football. Are we likely to have to go on the road ?
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Has anyone thought about next years CC Final. Planned for the middle of the Olympics when Wembley is being used for football. Are we likely to have to go on the road ?'"
Powergen Challenge Cup final is on the bank holiday weekend at the end of August. The Olympics finishes on August 12. So should be no problem. The RFL have, in any case, a contract with Wembley.
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| Maybe this is a bit off topic. Don't know as this is my first post, but the talk of different venues for the Magic leads ME to think there is a need for our own stadium.
Don't all 'families' need a place of their own? On this basis RL should have it's own stadium.
I suggest a 50-55 thousand capacity (poss 65000-one seat to accommodate each and every regular SL goer in England), with a retractable roof to allow year-round use and the prospect of multi-team comps like the 'Magic' weekend.
Possible costs at today's 'rates'? My (inexpert) guess £30-40 million. Funding? Maybe a concerted effort across the board from clubs, fans, stakeholders etc., could raise the requirement before the end of the decade. Don't know if I'll still be here to witness it, but how good would that be to see England lifting the RL World Cup there in 2017?
Sorry if it's the wrong thread. Maybe one for the future.
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| Quote: JonM "Powergen Challenge Cup final is on the bank holiday weekend at the end of August. The Olympics finishes on August 12. So should be no problem. The RFL have, in any case, a contract with Wembley.'"
means nowt...the FA have a bigger contract with wembley but have had the charity shield booted out of wembley next year..
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| Every event takes time. It was 50 years before the Challenge Cup Final attracted over 60,000. I'm not saying the Magic Weekend is in any way as prestigious as the CC, just showing it takes time for some annual sporting events to capture peoples imagination.
Keep it in Cardiff as the opening round, let it grow.
Does anyone know how many people from South Wales went to the event, or what the RFL did in South Wales with regards to marketing?
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| Quote: emu "According to Stephen Jones of The Sunday Times (twice voted Sports Journalist of the Year by the Sports Journalist Association!) we might as well abandon efforts to spread the League game anywhere as it'll all be in vain ... The following is a piece taken from his 'Rolling Maul' blog on February 10th
For a guy that hates League so much he bangs on about it enough.
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| Quote: Yed "Have it at the Olympic Stadium 2013 IN SUMMER
Reasons for
1) The travel links will be fantastic
2) Develops the game that is already developing at quite a rate down here (May help Quins gates)
3) Easier for the French to come over
4) Big new stadium, will attract people who want to experience the whole new site.
5) On the (lazy) media's doorstep
6) Plenty of hotels and other things to do
7) It's an easy sell for sponsors
Have it at the Olympic Stadium 2013 IN SUMMER
Reasons for
1) The travel links will be fantastic
no thanks I had to go to Stratford yesterday. Central line was suspended. So had to go a different way.
Then this morning the Jub line was suspened at stratford no one had a clue what was going on.
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| Quote: dids858 "Have it at the Olympic Stadium 2013 IN SUMMER
Reasons for
1) The travel links will be fantastic
no thanks I had to go to Stratford yesterday. Central line was suspended. So had to go a different way.
Then this morning the Jub line was suspened at stratford no one had a clue what was going on.'"
The Jubilee keeps getting suspended because they're sorting it out for the Olympics. Also Crossrail is being built, and the North London Line actually works nowadays. Stratford, although still a hole, can't really be faulted on connectability.
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| Quote: JonM "Powergen Challenge Cup final is on the bank holiday weekend at the end of August. The Olympics finishes on August 12. So should be no problem. The RFL have, in any case, a contract with Wembley.'"
And the Paralympics start 29th August. Ok after the BH weekend, but will the Olympic authorities want Wembley being used so close to the start. The Football for the able bodied games starts before the Olympics. So there is every possibility of the CC being turfed out for a year.
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| Quote: Dnats Ynnepeerht "Every event takes time. It was 50 years before the Challenge Cup Final attracted over 60,000. I'm not saying the Magic Weekend is in any way as prestigious as the CC, just showing it takes time for some annual sporting events to capture peoples imagination.
Keep it in Cardiff as the opening round, let it grow.
Does anyone know how many people from South Wales went to the event, or what the RFL did in South Wales with regards to marketing?'"
It can take time, but the GF grew as an event very quickly in its first 5 years. The MM has remained broadly static. Probably because its fully reached its target audience of RL fanatics and those wanting a boozy weekend with rugby.
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| Quote: Graham Richards "And the Paralympics start 29th August. Ok after the BH weekend, but will the Olympic authorities want Wembley being used so close to the start. The Football for the able bodied games starts before the Olympics. So there is every possibility of the CC being turfed out for a year.'"
You may have a point - although they do have the capability to turn the stadium round overnight - they had an athletics events on the day after the CC final a couple of years back.
The FA were asked if they minded moving the charity shield - they weren't booted out. They've also delayed the start of the premier league to avoid a clash. I wonder if the RFL has thought about scheduling against the Olympics next year?
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| Quote: Cibaman "It can take time, but the GF grew as an event very quickly in its first 5 years. The MM has remained broadly static. Probably because its fully reached its target audience of RL fanatics and those wanting a boozy weekend with rugby.'"
I think MM has suffered somewhat by moving the weekend it's on and by having it at Murrayfield for two years.
Keep it as a season opener in Cardiff for a few more years, step up the marketing in South Wales (schools, discounts to those with RU 6 Nation tickets etc), perhaps even get a couple of games broadcast on BBC.
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| Quote: Yed "Have it at the Olympic Stadium 2013 IN SUMMER
Reasons for
1) The travel links will be fantastic
2) Develops the game that is already developing at quite a rate down here (May help Quins gates)
3) Easier for the French to come over
4) Big new stadium, will attract people who want to experience the whole new site.
5) On the (lazy) media's doorstep
6) Plenty of hotels and other things to do
7) It's an easy sell for sponsors
Good in theory, in practice - well, as soon as the Olympics are over, the ground will be redeveloped into a wendyball stadium. It's not going to sit there for a year waiting for the Magic Weekend, and once the wendyballers get their hands on it, there's no way they'll let two days of... etc etc etc.
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| Not quite sure why 'Yed' seems to think that because 'it's the tourist hotspot of the UK' it will make more people come along to watch
I can't see all those Americans giving up their photgraphing 'Bucking-haym palace' days to go along.
And if you want to go to London as a tourist you go because you want to see 'touristy' things in London like Madame Tussauds, the London eye or Hyde Park.
This 'Magic' weekend should remain in Cardiff. It's ideal.
Just have it when it's a bit warmer and on a bank holiday weekend!
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