At that point, first game of the season yes. Certain teams are expected to do better as the season progresses though. After your narrow win against Leeds only last week, what makes you think they are average? Bearing in mind your narrow home win; what makes you think that Wakey are average after they convincingly beat Leeds at Headingly?

Well played Wakey, disappointed they put the cue on the rack with ten to go & Leeds down to 12, a top side would have put them to the sword but still well done to the Trin.

Leeds have spent their money in the wrong positions!

ASS108 hijacks another thread shock!

On another note, disrespectful question by Bill Arthur shot down in great fashion by Tom Johnstone.

The question wasn’t who was better at that point, the question was are London a better team than Wakefield because they beat them?. London were better on the day and Wakefield had an off day. Using your completely flawed logic, London are a better team than Wakefield end of. Except that isn’t true is it and your first sentence basically admits that. I’m struggling to see what it is that’s so hard for you to grasp. Teams play at different levels each week, clearly Leeds played better last week than today. Using a one off game to try and compare the level of teams is plain stupid as shown by the London va Wakefield game.

Again, if it’s that boring then scroll past and ignore. However, you’re still here reading, replying to my posts and looking to see how many times I’ve posted on a thread. Also, I think you’ll find Gazwire was the one asking questions that were completely irrelevant to both Leeds and Wakefield so I responded. If you don’t like that then tough.

There are exceptions to the rule, and yes, Wakey look stronger on paper than London. When Leicester won the Premier League title, they were labelled average throughout the season and it turned out they weren't- the table proves it- so my point is: only a fool would bluntly announce two descent looking sides to be average this early on in the season- especially when stains barely managed to beat them in recent games.

Wakey certainly look the more likely of the two to trouble the big clubs (and Warrington) this season.

They dismantled Leeds with ease who'll be lucky to finish mid-table. No doubt soon their fans will be calling for the return of McDermott after wanting him out from pretty much the day he got the gig.

Hope the Wakefield fans can now take a week off from their usual bleating about referees as their side were outstanding tonight and the scoreline flattered Leeds.

You’re saying there are exceptions to the rule because you know Wakey will finish above London by a pretty big distance, so for you to say otherwise would make you look like a fool. Saints are likely to finish above Wakey and Leeds by big distances so why aren’t the Saints vs Leeds and Saints vs Wakey games exceptions to the rule which doesn’t exist as well? That hasn’t been your point at all. Your point is that Saints must be an average side because I called Leeds and Wakefield average and Saints only just beat those sides which is a completely ridiculous point as I’ve just proved with the London vs Wakefield game. Also Leicester have absolutely zero relevance to what you’re trying to say.

F*** me just put a cork in it.

Don’t read it if you don’t like it, it’s really not hard.

ROll on the cup and play off semis when we can rid ourselves of this boring saints fan again for a few months

You sound worried to me.
Saints squeaked past Wakefield 2 weeks ago and literally robbed Leeds of 2 points, with some massively dubious calls last week and yet you call these 2 sides average. Sorry pal but on that basis, Saints also, are just average.
Trinity totally bullied and dominated Leeds tonight, something that Saints certainly didn't manage last week or, maybe you just softened them up for us, so, thanks for that.
As for average, if this means mid table, which by definition it does, I'll take that for now and lets see what happens through a long tough season.
Saint's and Wire look like they will finish top of the pile and that's great.
For Trinity, I'll be more than happy with 5th or better and right now, they look good value for that but, as I said, a hell of a long way to go and by your own reckoning, Saints have yet to play any top sides, so, you just be careful that your crown (actually Wigan's crown) doesn't slip and completely blind you