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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"All this talk of just Wigan makes me smile.
Lets not forget Wakefield, Halifax, St Helens, Hull FC, Bradford and now Salford.'"
Well it would you smile, wouldn't it.
They didn't slightly overspend on he cap, due to not quite budgeting their attendances.
What they did was to drive a bus through the cap and deliberately and blatantly cheat, to avoid relegation.
It wasn't remotely subtle, more like a two finger gesture to the sport and the governing body
Can you spot the difference 
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Club Coach | 7682 | Wigan Warriors |
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| Salford deliberately exceeded the cap with the use of additional contracts.
Wakefield, St Helens et al. accidentally exceeded the cap because of poor budgeting.
Wigan did not exceed the cap.
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| Whether it's a big cheat or little cheat, it's still a cheat. Think the clubs other than Wigan who cheated just didn't have the money or ambition to do a big cheat.
Wakey though did the worst morally wrong cheat last season.
Leigh should have come up, Wakey should gone down.
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Player Coach | 15521 | Wakefield Trinity |
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"For all I know there could be a number of clubs doing the exact same thing'"
I'd be willing to bet my house that there are several clubs doing the exact same thing; the difference I guess is that they a) don't have an owner who gets drunk and mouths off about it on social media and b) they don't routinely get into disputes with players, thus removing their need to be complicit.
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International Board Member | 20483 | Hunslet Hawks |
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Well it would you smile, wouldn't it.
They didn't slightly overspend on he cap, due to not quite budgeting their attendances.
What they did was to drive a bus through the cap and deliberately and blatantly cheat, to avoid relegation.
It wasn't remotely subtle, more like a two finger gesture to the sport and the governing body
Can you spot the difference
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Breaching the cap is breaching the cap. You can't be a "little bit" pregnant.
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Club Owner | 5881 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"Whether it's a big cheat or little cheat, it's still a cheat. Think the clubs other than Wigan who cheated just didn't have the money or ambition to do a big cheat.
Wakey though did the worst morally wrong cheat last season.
Leigh should have come up, Wakey should gone down.'"
Yeah the side who finished bottom of the middle 8s last season should definitely have been promoted 
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Club Owner | 24936 | Leeds Rhinos |
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"I'd be willing to bet my house that there are several clubs doing the exact same thing; the difference I guess is that they a) don't have an owner who gets drunk and mouths off about it on social media and b) they don't routinely get into disputes with players, thus removing their need to be complicit.'"
everyone knows one big club who do it, and have for years. indeed keith senior mentioned it in his book.
it doesn't help that said clubs west Yorkshire based players boast about it
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"Whether it's a big cheat or little cheat, it's still a cheat. Think the clubs other than Wigan who cheated just didn't have the money or ambition to do a big cheat.
Wakey though did the worst morally wrong cheat last season.
Leigh should have come up, Wakey should gone down.'"
Yeah, how did Wakefield cheat last season? Did they go bust? No. Did they spend over the cap? Not in a million years. How did we cheat?
Unless your on about us signing players and moving on players. In which case didn't Leigh and Bradford do the same? Did they cheat as well?
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"Whether it's a big cheat or little cheat, it's still a cheat. Think the clubs other than Wigan who cheated just didn't have the money or ambition to do a big cheat.
Wakey though did the worst morally wrong cheat last season.
Leigh should have come up, Wakey should gone down.'"
Yeah, how did Wakefield cheat last season? Did they go bust? No. Did they spend over the cap? Not in a million years. How did we cheat?
Unless your on about us signing players and moving on players. In which case didn't Leigh and Bradford do the same? Did they cheat as well?
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International Board Member | 1162 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote CM Punk="CM Punk"Salford deliberately exceeded the cap with the use of additional contracts.
Wakefield, St Helens et al. accidentally exceeded the cap because of poor budgeting.
Wigan did not exceed the cap.'"
Yes Wigan did exceed the cap. See Yossarian's post a few pages ago with this link:
[urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/j%20...%20ague.sport[/url
Read that report and tell me that what Salford are accused of was worse than that
Not defending my club cos I think they've been at best utterly inept and at worst, if proven, cheated and deserve punishment. But the idea it is worse than wigans isn't right in my view
As for the others, how do you prove that it was a genuine case of poor budgeting and not a deliberate over estimation of expected income?
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Yeah, how did Wakefield cheat last season? Did they go bust? No. Did they spend over the cap? Not in a million years. How did we cheat?
Unless your on about us signing players and moving on players. In which case didn't Leigh and Bradford do the same? Did they cheat as well?'"
I did say "morally cheat".
Going an entire season in the fashion Wakefield did was morally reprehensible. Wakey keeping their place in SL was akin to that bloke dressing up as a woman to escape the Titanic.
So no taking the high ground.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Breaching the cap is breaching the cap. You can't be a "little bit" pregnant.'"
You could just imagine the judge asking the the other clubs did they have s3x and thereby became pregnant and them replying yes we did but it only lasted 2 minutes, whilst Wigan lasted 3 and half hours.
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