On the HMrC site muppet! No Widnes bring nothing new just home grown players, paying crowds and actually put money INTO RL rather than just taking it out!

I think he meant about Nobby being paid by the RFL. Home grown players J20? Time will tell eh. Curious as to why SOC would waste money sending Cullen to Australia now when the decision is only going to be made in 5 months time, after all you haven't been told you are in yet...have you

Really! So why have HMRC and the RFL agreed that Leeds be used as a test case? That case is still on going. It is ongoing with respect to calculating the amount and the period of repayment. This case is also within the context of other sporting clubs, particularly football.

While there is little argument that wakey have showed a strong preference for overseas players -and still appear to do so

- they have been journeymen rather than the elite players who tend to have image rights deals. For example players like Winterstein and Leanno would not be prime candidates for such payments. Though someone like Tronc may possibly expect payments to such accounts.

For anyone requiring, clarity, proof, or evidence... Quote Limited Company Search Results - 1 results =#FF0000Company Name Number Address Post Code Accounts =#FF0000 Status =#FF0000CELTIC CRUSADERS LIMITED 05991284 TONDU ROAD, BRIDGEND, CF314JE CF314JE 30/11/2008 =#FF0000Winding Up Petition(s) Company Name: CELTIC CRUSADERS LIMITED Company Number 05991284 Registered Address: THE RACECOURSE MOLD ROAD WREXHAM LL11 2AH Trading Address: Brocastle Avenue Waterton Industrial Estate Bridgend CF31 3XR Credit Rating & Limit: Todays Rating [1-100 =#FF0000Not Rated - Winding Up Petition(s) Key Financials: Year to Date - 30/11/2008 Turnover - Pre Tax Profit - =#FF0000Shareholder Funds -£976,734 Employees - Last 3 Years Credit Rating/Limit =#FF0000Date 31/12/2009 Rating Limit - Not Rated - =#FF0000Financial Statements too old CCJ =#FF0000*Total Number of Exact CCJs - 14 Total Value of Exact CCJs - £44,154 Total Number of Possible CCJs - 3 Total Value of Possible CCJs - £2,984 Total Number of Satisfied CCJs - 6 Total Value of Satisfied CCJs - £16,682 Total Number of Writs - 0 Event History Date Description =#FF000019/10/2010 Mr M.J. Turner has left the board View Document =#FF000012/07/2010 New Board Member Mr P.G. Retout appointed View Document 08/02/2010 Change in Reg.Office View Document 08/02/2010 Change of Company Postcode View Document 08/02/2010 New Company Secretary Mr P. Retout appointed View Document =#FF000008/02/2010 New Board Member Mr P. Retout appointed View Document 08/02/2010 New Board Member Mr M.J. Turner appointed View Document 21/01/2010 New Accounts Filed View Document 19/01/2010 DG NOMINEES LIMITED has resigned as company secretary View Document 19/01/2010 Mr L. Samuel has left the board View Document 13/02/2009 Mr D.N. Tompson has left the board View Document Total Current Directors 1 Total Current Secretaries 1 Total Previous Directors / Company Secretaries 6 Current Directors Name Paul Gerard Retout Current Company Secretary Name Paul Retout '" Source www.creditsafeuk.com

For anyone requiring, clarity, proof, or evidence... Quote Limited Company Search Results - 1 results =#FF0000Company Name Number Address Post Code Accounts =#FF0000 Status =#FF0000CELTIC CRUSADERS LIMITED 05991284 TONDU ROAD, BRIDGEND, CF314JE CF314JE 30/11/2008 =#FF0000Winding Up Petition(s) Company Name: CELTIC CRUSADERS LIMITED Company Number 05991284 Registered Address: THE RACECOURSE MOLD ROAD WREXHAM LL11 2AH Trading Address: Brocastle Avenue Waterton Industrial Estate Bridgend CF31 3XR Credit Rating & Limit: Todays Rating [1-100 =#FF0000Not Rated - Winding Up Petition(s) Key Financials: Year to Date - 30/11/2008 Turnover - Pre Tax Profit - =#FF0000Shareholder Funds -£976,734 Employees - Last 3 Years Credit Rating/Limit =#FF0000Date 31/12/2009 Rating Limit - Not Rated - =#FF0000Financial Statements too old CCJ =#FF0000*Total Number of Exact CCJs - 14 Total Value of Exact CCJs - £44,154 Total Number of Possible CCJs - 3 Total Value of Possible CCJs - £2,984 Total Number of Satisfied CCJs - 6 Total Value of Satisfied CCJs - £16,682 Total Number of Writs - 0 Event History Date Description =#FF000019/10/2010 Mr M.J. Turner has left the board View Document =#FF000012/07/2010 New Board Member Mr P.G. Retout appointed View Document 08/02/2010 Change in Reg.Office View Document 08/02/2010 Change of Company Postcode View Document 08/02/2010 New Company Secretary Mr P. Retout appointed View Document =#FF000008/02/2010 New Board Member Mr P. Retout appointed View Document 08/02/2010 New Board Member Mr M.J. Turner appointed View Document 21/01/2010 New Accounts Filed View Document 19/01/2010 DG NOMINEES LIMITED has resigned as company secretary View Document 19/01/2010 Mr L. Samuel has left the board View Document 13/02/2009 Mr D.N. Tompson has left the board View Document Total Current Directors 1 Total Current Secretaries 1 Total Previous Directors / Company Secretaries 6 Current Directors Name Paul Gerard Retout Current Company Secretary Name Paul Retout '" Source www.creditsafeuk.com

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Well done

Hook line sinker rod & arm

Easy reply when you haven't got anything back to say. On other issues clearly no proof but pre season starts for most around now yet Cru made no announcemnets on coaching set up changes definate and also why would a paper make up people not being paid unless they had a link from somewhere.

Failure to prepare is preparing to fail

Of course J20. You have to admit this is the worst kept secret since Celtic Crusaders for SL.

Potentially... Just read that Ray French has met with Cullen in Auis and he's in good spirits and doing a good bit of ground work for our potential SL return, which is great and the best way to use the off season. Plus PC could certainly use the break!

While they probably had a source for the rumour you should not automatically believe everything a paper publishes. They exist to maximise their distribution figures, so there is a tendency to publish "scandals" even when they can't fully authenticate the facts.

I do agree with that entirely but usually for something so direct their is smoke... though that could just be the HMRC hearing and putting two & two together. However with Crusaders in the past most of the paper nonsense has become a reality unfortunately for them.

Your very wordy today J20, for example there was no need to use the word potential



Back on topic, if Crusaders don't sort out this winding up petition, they will likely take the football club down with them too