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Just to reiterate, our current playoff system does lend it's self to a two-conference system of 8 each, and it could prove useful for reducing games, whilst keeping all of the local derbies each way. It also gives an easier scope to introduce an origin-style mid season competition, as one league vs the other, either with Origin-Type Rules where their first SL match was played, or current rosters. Finally, it doesn't work with P/R too well, but is much more easily implimented into a controlled franchising system. Could probably work along the lines of[iRed Rose Super League[/i
Wigan Warriors
Warrington Wolves
St. Helens
Crusaders
Salford Reds
Widnes Vikings
Catalans Dragons
Tolouse Olympique
[iWhite Rose Super League[/i
Leeds Rhinos
Bradford Bulls
Hull FC
Hull KR
Wakefield Wildcats
Castleford Tigers
Huddersfield Giants
Harlequins
Although personally I would be inclined to grow South Wales Scorpions, A further London team and maybe a Cumbrian/North Western team.
So 22 Games, 3 War of the Roses games, 5 CC games and internationals. Still more than the NRL though.
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| Quote: Bovrick "Just to reiterate, our current playoff system does lend it's self to a two-conference system of 8 each, and it could prove useful for reducing games, whilst keeping all of the local derbies each way. It also gives an easier scope to introduce an origin-style mid season competition, as one league vs the other, either with Origin-Type Rules where their first SL match was played, or current rosters. Finally, it doesn't work with P/R too well, but is much more easily implimented into a controlled franchising system. Could probably work along the lines of[iRed Rose Super League[/i
Wigan Warriors
Warrington Wolves
St. Helens
Crusaders
Salford Reds
Widnes Vikings
Catalans Dragons
Tolouse Olympique
[iWhite Rose Super League[/i
Leeds Rhinos
Bradford Bulls
Hull FC
Hull KR
Wakefield Wildcats
Castleford Tigers
Huddersfield Giants
Harlequins
Although personally I would be inclined to grow South Wales Scorpions, A further London team and maybe a Cumbrian/North Western team.
So 22 Games, 3 War of the Roses games, 5 CC games and internationals. Still more than the NRL though.'"
I like the idea of that and it could indeed reinvigorate the challenge cup as well |
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Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
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| Quote: Bovrick "
[iRed Rose Super League[/i
Wigan Warriors
Warrington Wolves
St. Helens
Crusaders
Salford Reds
Widnes Vikings
Catalans Dragons
Tolouse Olympique
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That would be a completely unsustainable fixture list for practically every team in that league. Attendances would plummet and clubs would go bust. That’s 3 expansion clubs in our league to one in the Yorkie league. With very little away support and two journeys overseas, if not more depending on how many times these clubs are supposed to play each other.
The White Rose league would be better, but nowhere near as sustainable as SL is now imo. |
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| Quote: MrPhilb "I like the idea of that and it could indeed reinvigorate the challenge cup as well'"
There is also alot of scope to alter the formation and structure in the future if required. But it does allow for internationals/Rep games to be given the attention they deserve. |
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| Quote: Pepe "That would be a completely unsustainable fixture list for practically every team in that league. Attendances would plummet and clubs would go bust. That’s 3 expansion clubs in our league to one in the Yorkie league. With very little away support and two journeys overseas, if not more depending on how many times these clubs are supposed to play each other.
The White Rose league would be better, but nowhere near as sustainable as SL is now imo.'"
Not my idea, never going to claim it was, I just tried to put a coherant post of the other ideas here mate cause I liked it.
The fact is, let's look at it from say Wigan's point of view:
St.Helens Home & Away
Warrington Home & Away
Should give their best attendences.
Widnes Home & Away
Salford Home & Away
Crusaders Home & Away
All fairly local games to visit, reasonable crowds could be expected.
Catalans Home & Away
Toulouse Home & Away
One away game if you are lucky here really, but every other year the Toulouse match could replace what the Quins away match is now, as they would only visit Quins every other year in regular games. Catalans finally get a local derby too. |
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| Quote: Dico "I just don't agree with him.
But he does join a growing line of people in agreeance'"
In where now?
Have you been sharing TS's English coach
Quote: Dico ""Maybe the reduction of teams and the reduction of the number of games, rather than numbers of both," '"
It doesn't even mean anything |
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| Quote: Bovrick "Just to reiterate, our current playoff system does lend it's self to a two-conference system of 8 each, and it could prove useful for reducing games, whilst keeping all of the local derbies each way. It also gives an easier scope to introduce an origin-style mid season competition, as one league vs the other, either with Origin-Type Rules where their first SL match was played, or current rosters. Finally, it doesn't work with P/R too well, but is much more easily implimented into a controlled franchising system. Could probably work along the lines of[iRed Rose Super League[/i
Wigan Warriors
Warrington Wolves
St. Helens
Crusaders
Salford Reds
Widnes Vikings
Catalans Dragons
Tolouse Olympique
[iWhite Rose Super League[/i
Leeds Rhinos
Bradford Bulls
Hull FC
Hull KR
Wakefield Wildcats
Castleford Tigers
Huddersfield Giants
Harlequins
Although personally I would be inclined to grow South Wales Scorpions, A further London team and maybe a Cumbrian/North Western team.
So 22 Games, 3 War of the Roses games, 5 CC games and internationals. Still more than the NRL though.'"
don't like this idea at all, and it'd make the sport look even more 'small town' than it is already.
only the games with Leeds, Bradford and Rovers would generate a big crowd at the KC. And no club can survive with just 3 big home games a year. |
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I'd be more inclined to call it blunt contradiction 
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| Quote: UllFC "don't like this idea at all, and it'd make the sport look even more 'small town' than it is already.
only the games with Leeds, Bradford and Rovers would generate a big crowd at the KC. And no club can survive with just 3 big home games a year.'"
Like I said they would not be my teams of choice.
Maybe I didn't highlight it enough, you would get 7 home games from your league and 4 from the other.
Who would you consider "big" home games now? |
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| Quote: UllFC "don't like this idea at all, and it'd make the sport look even more 'small town' than it is already.
only the games with Leeds, Bradford and Rovers would generate a big crowd at the KC. And no club can survive with just 3 big home games a year.'"
Just to clarify you wouldn't play just the sides in your conference you'd also play the likes of Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Widnes, some of which would be at home.
Also it doesn't have to be say a Yorkshire/Lancashire sort of fell to it. You could mix and match the sides in it but from a travelling perspective and derbies it would make more sense to increase crowd numbers of the whole |
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Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
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| Quote: Bovrick "Not my idea, never going to claim it was, I just tried to put a coherant post of the other ideas here mate cause I liked it.
The fact is, let's look at it from say Wigan's point of view
Let’s look at it from Widnes’ point of view.
Good crowds
Wigan Home & Away
St.Helens Home & Away
Warrington Home & Away
Little or no away support, no atmosphere and little interest.
Salford Home & Away
Crusaders Home & Away
Catalans Home & Away
Toulouse Home & Away
That’s 8 out of 14 games relying entirely on home support. It will be even worse for other clubs than it would for Widnes. I know some people think away support in a red herring, but it just isn’t. I bet even Saints would go out of business if that league ever went ahead. It would be a complete disaster imo.
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Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
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| Quote: Trinity Till Death "Why would it be 8?'"
Salford don't bring many.
Crusaders Don't bring many, although I would expect them to bring more than Salford
Catalans 0
Toulouse 0
It would be the same for all of them, although they would have the advantage of Widnes’ away support which, in itself, wouldn’t make up for missing out on visits from the likes of Hull, Hull KR, Leeds and Bradford ect… |
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| Quote: Pepe "Let’s look at it from Widnes’ point of view.
Good crowds
Wigan Home & Away
St.Helens Home & Away
Warrington Home & Away
Little or no away support, no atmosphere and little interest.
Salford Home & Away
Crusaders Home & Away
Catalans Home & Away
Toulouse Home & Away
That’s 8 out of 14 games relying entirely on home support. It will be even worse for other clubs than it would for Widnes. I know some people think away support in a red herring, but it just isn’t. I bet even Saints would go out of business if that league ever went ahead. It would be a complete disaster imo.'"
That's a fair point, I'll just have a look at this...
"If Widnes Replaced Salford now" VS "Widnes in RRSL"
Wigan Home & Away VS Wigan Home & Away
St.Helens Home & Away VS St.Helens Home & Away
Warrington Home & Away VS Warrington Home & Away
Crusaders Home & Away VS Crusaders Home & Away
Catalans Home & Away VS Catalans Home & Away
Would be the same
Bradford Home & Away
Leeds Home & Away
Hull FC Home & Away
Hull KR Home & Away
Harlequins Home & Away
Huddersfield Home & Away
Wakefield Home & Away
Castleford Home & Away
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Salford Home & Away
Toulouse Home & Away
Leeds Home OR Away
Bradford Home OR Away
Hull FC Home OR Away
Hull KR Home OR Away
Harlequins Home OR Away
Huddersfield Home OR Away
Wakefield Home OR Away
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| Quote: Pepe "Crusaders Don't bring many, although I would expect them to bring more than Salford
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You'd be surprised how many Crusaders fans tipped up at Headingley on Sunday actually. |
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