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| Proof that Salford, St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Crusaders and St Helens were warned about their stadia ahead of licensing in 2009.
In July 2009, the RFL was reported to have warned Salford City Reds, Castleford Tigers and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, of which none had started construction on a new stadium, that progress must be made in order to avoid jeopardising their chances of obtaining a second Super League licence. St Helens RLFC and Celtic Crusaders (later Crusaders Rugby League) were also warned, but were reported to have a likely chance of having a new stadium by 2012." |
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I was at a meeting in 1999 that tasker said that to warrington when he was at the rfl/sl
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So according to the first link Salford did have a choice to up grade the willows,
"We felt it was appropriate to remind all the clubs of their commitment to upgrade their current facility or move to a new stadium," the RFL said.
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| Quote: snowie "So according to the first link Salford did have a choice to up grade the willows,
"We felt it was appropriate to remind all the clubs of their commitment to upgrade their current facility or move to a new stadium," the RFL said.'"
I'm pretty sure redeveloping The Willows was never an option for Salford because the area surrounding the ground was so built up with housing etc.
Reds89 kindly helped out with the licensing stuff so maybe he can dig out something else that will back me up on this.   |
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| Quote: reds89 "Proof that Salford, St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Crusaders and St Helens were warned about their stadia ahead of licensing in 2009.
In July 2009, the RFL was reported to have warned Salford City Reds, Castleford Tigers and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, of which none had started construction on a new stadium, that progress must be made in order to avoid jeopardising their chances of obtaining a second Super League licence. St Helens RLFC and Celtic Crusaders (later Crusaders Rugby League) were also warned, but were reported to have a likely chance of having a new stadium by 2012."'"
Two interpretive articles by a journalist and Wikipedia!
None of which are evidence of any kind of ultimatum being given to any club at all. |
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... ders-rugby
More proof. Not sure what else there is I can post as all articles are interpretive, however, they are all saying the same thing.
In regards to the Willows being redeveloped, I can't find any articles proving it but I do know that it was not possible due to the surrounding houses backing onto the stands and lack of car parking around.
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... ders-rugby
More proof. Not sure what else there is I can post as all articles are interpretive, however, they are all saying the same thing.
In regards to the Willows being redeveloped, I can't find any articles proving it but I do know that it was not possible due to the surrounding houses backing onto the stands and lack of car parking around.
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Again, nowhere is there evidence of an RFL statement, saying that clubs ABC will be out of SL, if XYZ doesn't happen.
Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.
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| Quote: dboy "Again, nowhere is there evidence of an RFL statement, saying that clubs ABC will be out of SL, if XYZ doesn't happen.
Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.'"
All it is Salford saw the chance of a new shiny stadium but the fans didn't like the idea and failed to support them, now it a noose around they neck as the cost will be too much, hope there's a lesson to learn from it |
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| Quote: snowie "All it is Salford saw the chance of a new shiny stadium but the fans didn't like the idea and failed to support them, now it a noose around they neck as the cost will be too much, hope there's a lesson to learn from it'"
The failure of the Newmarket build may be a blessing in disguise - as long as we get the enabling funding as promised. |
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Quote: dboy "Again, nowhere is there evidence of an RFL statement, saying that clubs ABC will be out of SL, if XYZ doesn't happen.
Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.'"
It was the required criteria to gain a License for Super League.Grading was required with a points system.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 138760.stm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/georgeriley ... _will.html |
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Quote: dboy "Again, nowhere is there evidence of an RFL statement, saying that clubs ABC will be out of SL, if XYZ doesn't happen.
Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.'"
It was the required criteria to gain a License for Super League.Grading was required with a points system.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 138760.stm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/georgeriley ... _will.html | |
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| Quote: dboy "The failure of the Newmarket build may be a blessing in disguise - as long as we get the enabling funding as promised.'"
Which again won't happen |
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| Quote: Ornery Optimist "It was the required criteria to gain a License for Super League.Grading was required with a points system.
So no club was told they needed a new stadium and all the clubs awarded a SL licence passed the criteria.
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| Quote: Ornery Optimist "It was the required criteria to gain a License for Super League.Grading was required with a points system.
We know that  what we stating is that the rfl didn't say that they had to get new stadiums refurbishment would do if met with the demands, keep up will you 
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| Time to move on I think Reds89. Seems like most on here have their own interpretation of a situation they quite frankly know f*ck all about
Really not worth arguing the toss anymore. See you all at Moor Lane sometime guys (unless it's too inconvenient for you all to travel to of course  ). |
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| Quote: Donnyman "I don't remember Salford being forced out, only the fact that they got an opportunity for a new stadium that Cas and Wakey didn't get.
They understandably took that opportunity of their own free will AFAIK. Sadly it did not work out ![]()
What is eluded to here is that the RFL threatened expulsion from Super League to those Club's which had still not got SL standard stadiums, it was part of the licensing criteria at the time, both Cas & Wakey continued on a 'promise' of either moving to new stadiums or redevelopment , that is why there are still so many jokes & lampooning of Wakey & Cas over the many unrealised 'artist impressions' that never materialised, maybe (possibly) were never intended to materialise ! Just a fake thread to hang onto Super League status !!!
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