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Quote: Cokey "I actually agree with this. I think we should call it the "Magic Challenge" Weekend.
And not forgetting the second point to not let Leigh try to buy into SL by having a large squad full of journeymen with no reserve team or junior development.

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Quote: wire-quin "And not forgetting the second point to not let Leigh try to buy into SL by having a large squad full of journeymen with no reserve team or junior development.'"


What is it with you? Why are you so obsessed with Leigh wanting to do well? I have never advocated that Leigh should be in SL on any criteria apart from P&R. What i have said some time ago is,whoever gets into SL, should do so on merit,that's why i said i agree with wrencat1873, that if TWP are not readmitted, then yes run with an 11 team SL for 2021. I suggest you go and sit down,and give your head a wobble. d040.gif

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Quote: Cokey "What is it with you? Why are you so obsessed with Leigh wanting to do well? I have never advocated that Leigh should be in SL on any criteria apart from P&R. What i have said some time ago is,whoever gets into SL, should do so on merit,that's why i said i agree with wrencat1873, that if TWP are not readmitted, then yes run with an 11 team SL for 2021. '"


Running with an 11 club Superlague is very problematic. These short term problems can be solved immediately by Leigh stepping up for next season.

At the end of the season the TV deal runs out so Superleague can then decide what shape and content they will have under a new reduced deal.

So the idea Leigh should not be promoted because they don't have a long term player development strategy is an irrelevance.

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Quote: Donnyman "Running with an 11 club Superlague is very problematic. These short term problems can be solved immediately by Leigh stepping up for next season.

At the end of the season the TV deal runs out so Superleague can then decide what shape and content they will have under a new reduced deal.

So the idea Leigh should not be promoted because they don't have a long term player development strategy is an irrelevance.'"


Yes I get all that,and hope Leigh do get admitted,But just to appease the anti Leigh mob, I am just reiterating that any club should be promoted on merit in my view. I also understand the current dilemma due to the phoney TWP antics which have caused all this mess. Que sera sera.

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Quote: Cokey "Yes I get all that,and hope Leigh do get admitted,But just to appease the anti Leigh mob, I am just reiterating that any club should be promoted on merit in my view. I also understand the current dilemma due to the phoney TWP antics which have caused all this mess. Que sera sera.'"


Any club that was chosen to be "promoted" from the Championship, even on some kind of "franchise type criteria" would be open to all sorts of questions.
Depending who was setting the criteria would give advantage to one club or other.
What criteria would carry most weight ?

Fev were beaten finalists in the last Championship play off final
Leigh have been there before and appear to be assembling a very strong squad.
Toulouse, sit top of the "suspended" Championship comp
Widnes, decent facilities and ground, plus plenty of fans
London, just for the "kudos" of having a club in the Capital
Bradford, sleeping "giant" potential to bring some decent numbers of fans

A case could be made for any of the above and by picking any club, there could be a legal challenge from some of the unlucky ones - for this reason, if Toronto dont come back, SL should run with 11 clubs and use "magic" for one of the rounds of the Challenge Cup.

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Quote: Cokey "Yes I get all that,and hope Leigh do get admitted,But just to appease the anti Leigh mob, I am just reiterating that any club should be promoted on merit in my view. I also understand the current dilemma due to the phoney TWP antics which have caused all this mess. Que sera sera.'"


Quote: Cokey "What is it with you? Why are you so obsessed with Leigh wanting to do well? I have never advocated that Leigh should be in SL on any criteria apart from P&R. What i have said some time ago is,[sizewhoever gets into SL, should do so on merit,that's why i said i agree with wrencat1873, that if TWP are not readmitted, then yes run with an 11 team SL for 2021.[/size

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Quote: Cokey "Any club that was chosen to be "promoted" from the Championship, even on some kind of "franchise type criteria" would be open to all sorts of questions.
Depending who was setting the criteria would give advantage to one club or other.
What criteria would carry most weight ?

Fev were beaten finalists in the last Championship play off final
Leigh have been there before and appear to be assembling a very strong squad.
Toulouse, sit top of the "suspended" Championship comp
Widnes, decent facilities and ground, plus plenty of fans
London, just for the "kudos" of having a club in the Capital
Bradford, sleeping "giant" potential to bring some decent numbers of fans

A case could be made for any of the above and by picking any club, there could be a legal challenge from some of the unlucky ones - for this reason, if Toronto dont come back, SL should run with 11 clubs and use "magic" for one of the rounds of the Challenge Cup.'"


TBF - I think your post would be more relevant to the one below.
Cheers Cokey, putting me in with Donny is a very low blow - mandatory count 1, 2, 3, ........

However, you know that simply isn't the case.
Any club "promoted" for next season, assuming that they dont have any major problems, would be in the box seat for the following season, unless they were in the relegation spot icon_eek.gif

With the current situation, it would be a brave person to predict very much about future events and RL is no different.

Tbf, I'm not sure how many clubs will get through the winter without the usual season ticket sales and let's face it, how does anyone sell season tickets, when there is no likelihood of supporters being allowed into games, especially at the start of the season in February ? and even then, had clubs sold S/T's, it may be that not everyone would be allowed in.

It's a right old mess

The problem, in general terms, could be even worse in The Championship and League 1, as S/T's make up a hefty share of their income too and without any TV monies.

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Quote: Donnyman "Running with an 11 club Superlague is very problematic. These short term problems can be solved immediately by Leigh stepping up for next season.

At the end of the season the TV deal runs out so Superleague can then decide what shape and content they will have under a new reduced deal.

So the idea Leigh should not be promoted because they don't have a long term player development strategy is an irrelevance.'"

If you are advocating that Leigh should step up for next season because it would cause the least problems, and I personally have no problems who steps in least of all Leigh, then your argument is flawed when you say that the Sky deal with super league finishes after next season, that being the case if it's for next season only then providing Toronto give assurances for next season why can't it be them on the basis of your logic.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Cheers Cokey, putting me in with Donny is a very low blow Any club "promoted" for next season, assuming that they don't have any major problems, would be in the box seat for the following season '"


Because you say so? Since when did you run the league? Let me know??

Nobody is in the "box seat" 2022 when Superleague faces the end of this long TV deal and goes onto a much reduced deal. All bets are off under a new deal that will see many clubs lose TV funding altogether. For all you know, which isn't much, Leigh may be only given a one year "licence" for next year? If HKR have lost Hudgell how are they going to be "in the box seat"?

If we go to 10 and there has been a vote on a 2x10 SL then how would Wakefield fare against York to be in SL1 if they chose that on licensing??

let me know the answers to those questions please if you have a crystal ball and can see who are in the Box seats for SL 2022?.

Thanks heavens I aren't "in with" you and your mate icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

For those that could not stop indicating we have a problem.........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/54695638
Quote: wrencat1873 "Cheers Cokey, putting me in with Donny is a very low blow Any club "promoted" for next season, assuming that they don't have any major problems, would be in the box seat for the following season '"


Because you say so? Since when did you run the league? Let me know??

Nobody is in the "box seat" 2022 when Superleague faces the end of this long TV deal and goes onto a much reduced deal. All bets are off under a new deal that will see many clubs lose TV funding altogether. For all you know, which isn't much, Leigh may be only given a one year "licence" for next year? If HKR have lost Hudgell how are they going to be "in the box seat"?

If we go to 10 and there has been a vote on a 2x10 SL then how would Wakefield fare against York to be in SL1 if they chose that on licensing??

let me know the answers to those questions please if you have a crystal ball and can see who are in the Box seats for SL 2022?.

Thanks heavens I aren't "in with" you and your mate icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

For those that could not stop indicating we have a problem.........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/54695638


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Quote: Donnyman "Because you say so? Since when did you run the league? Let me know??

Nobody is in the "box seat" 2022 when Superleague faces the end of this long TV deal and goes onto a much reduced deal. All bets are off under a new deal that will see many clubs lose TV funding altogether. For all you know, which isn't much, Leigh may be only given a one year "licence" for next year? If HKR have lost Hudgell how are they going to be "in the box seat"?

If we go to 10 and there has been a vote on a 2x10 SL then how would Wakefield fare against York to be in SL1 if they chose that on licensing??

let me know the answers to those questions please if you have a crystal ball and can see who are in the Box seats for SL 2022?.

Thanks heavens I aren't "in with" you and your mate
What on earth are you on about.?
MY OPINION is that any club (not just Leigh), that was promoted for next season would have a huge advantage towards being selected for the following season, even if there was a return to "franchising".
I do hope that it's ok to express an opinion, rather than your own "facts", which blow with the the wind.

Are you still certain of the 12 club all English league icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

If the game moves to "franchising" things could be really interesting, especially as NOBODY is certain which clubs will survive the winter.

Btw, you do realise that this thread is "Re: 14 team league" and not another one of your own making.??

I really do love your "for all you know" comment.
Comedy gold from the resident "town hall clock". d040.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "What on earth are you on about.?
MY OPINION is that any club (not just Leigh), that was promoted for next season would have a huge advantage towards being selected for the following season, even if there was a return to "franchising".
I do hope that it's ok to express an opinion, rather than your own "facts", which blow with the the wind.

Are you still certain of the 12 club all English league icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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