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| Quote: homme vaste "What a load of rubbish, .'"
Why even both replying! He just makes things up to get a rise out of you.
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| Is Sir Kev's crown slipping? Thought interview last night was cringe worthy.
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| A couple of years ago here I stated McDermot wasn't really a great coach, but he had inherited a self managed team of strong players that were just starting to retire. I was of course shouted down.
Recently the comment 'player run club' has emerged.
Nearly all the old elite players have gone and the new ones coming through don't appear good enough.
Add to that, Furner didn't really want to come over anyway (remember the fiasco before the season started)?
Looking at all this, its hardly surprising Leeds are now in this state. A lot of people outside the club saw it coming years ago - why couldn't GH? I bet he's glad he didn't get his way on keeping the middle 8s now.
Yes, Rovers have their own problems but these have never been just brushed aside like at Leeds.
Time for the whole club to learn some humilty before it's too late.
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| Kevvo looked like Steve McBanana did with his interviews at the back end of his Bulls tenure.
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| Quote: Tigerade "A couple of observations.
Why was Sinfield sat with Agar and the other coaches ? You don't see Radlinski or Wells do it. Is his role different to that of the usual Director of Rugby ?
I have read on several occasions on these threads that Leeds have an element of "toxic" players they need to get rid of. Who are they ?'"
Wells is too busy acting as Cas Cheerleader when they are on Sky.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I have no idea why clubs employ former greats in non-playing roles that appear to be based on how good a player they were. They are two completely different skillsets.'"
Reminds me a bit when Steadman and Mercer coached Cas. Great players but out of their depth in the coaching game. We brought unknowns in like Van Der Velde and Stuart Raper who were far better.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "A couple of years ago here I stated McDermot wasn't really a great coach, but he had inherited a self managed team of strong players that were just starting to retire. I was of course shouted down.'"
2017 largely put pay to it was the old guard. Yes McGuire came good in the playoffs but wasn’t really that good during the regular season and Burrow barely got minutes with Parcell’s Dream Team form.
And we started fine in 2018 being top 4 after 10 rounds. Problem was we didn’t sign any props when McDermott badly needed some. Galloway didn’t play and announced his retirement a few weeks into the season. Garbutt only played 2 of the opening 16 rounds. Peteru only played 3 of the opening 21 rounds. Cuthbertson missed rounds 3-10. Then when he came back Singleton then missed rounds 12, 13 & 15-18. Add in Mullally then the 6 front line props at the start of the year made a total of 45 appearances between them before McDermott was sacked after Round 20. That’s 7.5 appearances per prop in 20 games. Any coach whether at Leeds or any other SL club would struggle if they went so long being so low on props.
Question is why didn’t we splash the cash for McDermott to get desperately needed props but gladly gave Sinfield two marquees and big offers to other clubs HB’s this year. A top quality prop to replace the retired Galloway and another decent standard prop brought in during 2018 when we were still in the top 4 spots and we could’ve stayed there or at the very least come close.
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Leeds is a Hetherington egotrip, Kath and Agar messed up Hull, now Gary and Richard are messing up Leeds, with Gary already messed up the RFL. The Hetheringtons are not good for RFL.'"
This is the same Hetherington who brought Leeds there most successful period EVER and I mean EVER, what an utter load of dross even for you.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "https
Very interesting- what this tells you is GH took the opinion of a man with little experience who’s been elevated immediately into a top job over someone with years of experience in coaching.
Ironically Sinfield is the wrong man in the wrong job.
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| Quote: jools "Very interesting- what this tells you is GH took the opinion of a man with little experience who’s been elevated immediately into a top job over someone with years of experience in coaching.
Ironically Sinfield is the wrong man in the wrong job.'"
GH is no fool doubt he blundly just took Sinfields side if things clearly GH was not happy with the start under furner either and was coming to a similar conclusion. If he was in the same line if thinking as Furner then Sinfield would have gone. Its obvious that Furner wanted to keep blaming the tools he had and was not prepared to or capable of getting the best out off what he had. A blunt axe will still chop down a tree with enough effort.
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| Quote: jools "Very interesting- what this tells you is GH took the opinion of a man with little experience who’s been elevated immediately into a top job over someone with years of experience in coaching.
Ironically Sinfield is the wrong man in the wrong job.'"
How do you get to that from Sinfield offering his resignation?
Hetherington has a 20 year working relationship with Sinfield so knows the kind of man he is, seeing a working relationship break down so fundamentally that one of them had to go, he opted to keep the guy he trusts the most. That's common sense.
The only opinion Hetherington took was his own.
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| Quote: jools "Very interesting- what this tells you is GH took the opinion of a man with little experience who’s been elevated immediately into a top job over someone with years of experience in coaching.
Ironically Sinfield is the wrong man in the wrong job.'"
I think the key thing is that Sinfield is being groomed to have this and more of GH’s role for many many years to come. IF (and it’s an IF) he turns it around he could be here for another 20 years. Furner was 3 years and most likely returning to Australia afterwards. Think that was a key problem really, the rebuilding of the squad to a competitive one was at best case scenario going to take 3-4 years.....which is exactly when Furner would’ve been leaving. What good is that to a guy who will have had in his hopes to impress those Down Under into offering him a head coaches gig in a few years time?
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "How do you get to that from Sinfield offering his resignation?
Hetherington has a 20 year working relationship with Sinfield so knows the kind of man he is, seeing a working relationship break down so fundamentally that one of them had to go, he opted to keep the guy he trusts the most. That's common sense.
The only opinion Hetherington took was his own.'"
So your saying he opted to keep the guy who picked the wrong guy?
You don’t think this 20 year relationship he has is clouding his judgement?
Sinfield has done the wrong thing staying at Leeds. He should have gone out and learnt new stuff from elsewhere- as clearly carrying on with the old stuff isn’t working for this particular set of players. But he has no experience of anything else. JP and maguire got it right,
“Legends” staying at the club and taking on big responsibilities early on doesn’t seem to work Sinfield, Cunningham, Long.....
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| Quote: rollin thunder "GH is no fool doubt he blundly just took Sinfields side if things clearly GH was not happy with the start under furner either and was coming to a similar conclusion. If he was in the same line if thinking as Furner then Sinfield would have gone. Its obvious that Furner wanted to keep blaming the tools he had and was not prepared to or capable of getting the best out off what he had. A blunt axe will still chop down a tree with enough effort.'"
Depends how blunt the axe is
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