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Quote: Salford red all over "And yet in your <REMOVED> you have them finishing above Hull KR Salford and Widnes <REMOVED>.

<REMOVED - Please see thread at the top of this board>'"


Widnes is definitely short of Super League standard and both Salford and Hull KR might be.

Toronto and either London or Toulouse will finish above Widnes. I foresee Toronto finishing 2nd or 3rd and London and Toulouse in the MPG.

Time will tell.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Toulouse played some entertaining rugby and would be a great addition to Super League'"

They Lost, to the side with the 2nd worst run of form in SL and they lost heavily being outscored 9 tries to 4 with 2 of their tries coming at the death of the first half and their last with 4 minutes to go.....they will struggle against Toronto Salford and HKR and stand the best chance of points v Fax this weekend......if they lose to fax then I expect "nil point" and rock bottom last....but yeah, let's promote them because they're "entertaining".... d040.gif

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Or you could say they played entertaining rugby and were competitive with the 2017 Super League Champions and Super League’s most successful side, been only 1 score down at half time.

I expect Toulouse to beat Halifax, who I think will finish on 0 points. All games between Toulouse, Toronto, Widnes, Salford and Hull Kr will be too tight to call and could go either way.

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Toronto and either London or Toulouse will finish above Widnes. I foresee Toronto finishing 2nd or 3rd and London and Toulouse in the MPG.

Time will tell.'"


I’m not about Toronto yet based on Paul Rowley. This is his first crack at the Qualifiers since 2015 when he was expected to challenge with Leigh but they flopped big time. Made tough work of Halifax

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: ThePrinter "Definitely had the rub of the green with the ref calls but home teams often do.'"

we will see on Sunday curtain.gif
I think leeds will have too much for us, but if we can play at speed we may catch them out. 2k tickets sold already, so a cracking day out anyway.

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i'd like to see the Toulouse Olympique join Les Catalans and see what attendances they would get in a derby

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Quote: Joff "i'd like to see the Toulouse Olympique join Les Catalans and see what attendances they would get in a derby'"


If both Catalans Dragons and Toulouse Olympique were in Super League, for the local derby I would expect 11,000 + in Perpignan and 14-15,000 in Toulouse.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "If both Catalans Dragons and Toulouse Olympique were in Super League, for the local derby I would expect 11,000 + in Perpignan and 14-15,000 in Toulouse.'"

...based on what exactly?

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I believe France have had good crowds for internationals down there

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "I believe France have had good crowds for internationals down there'"


...and what's that got to do with the price of cheese in Kazakhstan? The Shay had a sellout crowd into 5 figures for Tonga vs Italy, but that doesn't translate into similar numbers when Fax play our local rivals, London. They're over 200km apart, which is give or take what West Yorkshire is from London. Cats get decent crowds, but Toulouse?

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "If both Catalans Dragons and Toulouse Olympique were in Super League, for the local derby I would expect 11,000 + in Perpignan and 14-15,000 in Toulouse.'"


Wouldn't that require a new stadium?

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Quote: atomic "Wouldn't that require a new stadium?'"


No. They can play in the existing Ernest-Wallon stadium in Toulouse, used by rugby union, which has a capacity of 19,500. That stadium was used by Catalans against Hull KR in 2013, and the match was a sellout. It was also used for French rugby league Test matches. I attended one there -- France vs New Zealand -- many years ago, when Maxime Greseque was France's half back.

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Quote: Call Me God "we will see on Sunday
What? A whole 2000? How many of those are Leeds fans? To be honest, thats not bad going for London. You might be right about your chances, but Leeds are still there for the taking if you get a roll on.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Widnes is definitely short of Super League standard and both Salford and Hull KR might be.

Toronto and either London or Toulouse will finish above Widnes. I foresee Toronto finishing 2nd or 3rd and London and Toulouse in the MPG.

Time will tell.'"


Your assessment of Widnes is a widely held belief although they've escaped before. Salford are actually likely to be top of the group. Leeds scraped by Toulouse at home so hard to tell. Same with us. Outmuscled by probably the top team in the m8s.

The game on Saturday is arguably bigger for Toronto than us - they've been talked up by everyone for two years and its time to prove it. If we lose then it'll be nothing more than the expansionists want and if they lose it'll be 'expected' because we're the SL team. We'll get no cries of it being a great victory. The attention from none KR fans will be on Toronto.

For Rovers fans its just a vital SL survival game that happens to be played in another continent, the opposition is largely unimportant.

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