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| Quote: Willzay "It's funny how Kelly is allowed mitigating factors, and Minns's excuse was shot down (rightly so too). Professionalism, both are lacking, they are.'"
That's how it works over here. Franchise nabbing salary cap breaching challenge cup ineligible players are all figments of KR fans jealous minds
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| Quote: craig hkr "Quote: craig hkr "It's funny how Kelly is allowed mitigating factors, and Minns's excuse was shot down (rightly so too). Professionalism, both are lacking, they are.'"
That's how it works over here. Franchise nabbing salary cap breaching challenge cup ineligible players are all figments of KR fans jealous minds'"
Hahaha, you're starting to sound like the pathetic loser that you clearly are!
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| Was meant tongue in cheek.Well done
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| Personally, if this is found to be recent, as in during his time with us, I'd want him cut loose. It's abhorrent behaviour, you can't justify it. Great player but clearly an idiot. As much as it would impact our season, I'd rather the club took the moral high ground which is something we've failed to do in the past.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Genuine question... Was it sexist abuse?
I would wholeheartedly agree with the earlier post stating its derogatory. Does Kelly refer to the victim and imply it an outburst aimed at 50% of the population?
I think there are far too many holier then thou types chipping in on this thread blowing it out of proportion.
Don't get me wrong, its very poor form, but throwing in sexism is not evident from the footage available. What is seen is a drunk being a complete tool.'"
Is it sexist abuse?
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore purely because she’s a woman then yes, it absolutely is sexist abuse.
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore because she’s slept with loads of his mates or for some other reason than she’s a woman, then it could be argued it’s not sexist.
Either way, it’s not acceptable. My money is in the first scenario though.
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| This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.
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8043.jpg [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy.
A wind up merchant but a good lad.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Your a cock !!!!
GJB
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| Has anyone seen Kelly’s wife .
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: The Reason "Has anyone seen Kelly’s wife .'"
Go on....
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Are you upset because lowly Leigh walloped Lifeless London 40 - 0?
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Its Hull FC, Salford Red Devils and Leigh Centurions.
How old are you?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Is it sexist abuse?
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore purely because she’s a woman then yes, it absolutely is sexist abuse.
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore because she’s slept with loads of his mates or for some other reason than she’s a woman, then it could be argued it’s not sexist.
Either way, it’s not acceptable. My money is in the first scenario though.'"
Firstly, I will reiterate, Kelly is bang out of order. No arguments.
What we don’t know is if anything was said ahead of the footage. My money is most definitely yes, given that someone felt the need to get a phone out to record it.
Has Kelly’s outburst purely driven that it’s a female who is serving, or would he have been a total tool if it had been a bloke.
Still, at a time there is drug cheats, drug users, people who have inflicted physical harm on others, Kelly’s is not the crime of the century and in fact not actually a crime. He has just made himself look a complete tool.
Written warning from his employer about his behaviour.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Firstly, I will reiterate, Kelly is bang out of order. No arguments.
What we don’t know is if anything was said ahead of the footage. My money is most definitely yes, given that someone felt the need to get a phone out to record it.
Has Kelly’s outburst purely driven that it’s a female who is serving, or would he have been a total tool if it had been a bloke.
Still, at a time there is drug cheats, drug users, people who have inflicted physical harm on others, Kelly’s is not the crime of the century and in fact not actually a crime. He has just made himself look a complete tool.
Written warning from his employer about his behaviour.'"
He’s used abusive language that is driven by the fact it’s a female who is serving him. The words ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ are most definately terms of sexist abuse.
He’s also threaten to assault her, which isn’t sexist.
There’s a difference between behaving like a tool and subjecting someone to sexist and derogatory abuse. His behaviour falls into the latter category in my view.
As to whether it’s a crime, I think that’s debatable too. Legally, assault is deemed to be when “a person performs an act by which they intentionally or recklessly causes another person to apprehend immediate unlawful violence”. I could easily argue that he assaulted her by saying he would “put her on the concrete”.
It’s also a criminal offence to use “threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them.” Again, I could argue that this is the case here.
So.... crime of the century? No. Potentially illegal? Yes.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Or maybe the crime deserves a greater punishment, say the remainder of his career at Calamitous Crappy Catalans or Laughably Limp London or even Tragically Turgid Toulouse ?
What do you think Sir Kevin ?
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "Or maybe the crime deserves a greater punishment, say the remainder of his career at Calamitous Crappy Catalans or Laughably Limp London or even Tragically Turgid Toulouse ?
What do you think Sir Kevin ?'"
What is turgid about Toulouse? Terrific Toulouse is an exciting team with a bright future.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind a sober Albert Kelly at courageous Catalans. He could lift the team into the top 8 and maybe higher.
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