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| Quote: luke ShipleyRed "I don't get how they've been allowed to do that. Like you say, they're either in everything or nothing. I could understand not wanting a home draw (like Toronto last season). But to just not enter it when there's no reason for it.'"
There is a reason for it though. It means that they will be playing potentially 2 to 4 less games than all the other Championship teams! Ergo, less injuries, blank weekends for recovery, less expense etc. giving them a definite advantage in their push for promotion.
I'd be surprised if any of the UK teams would be allowed to do this. |
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| Quote: Tigerade "Looks like Toronto might have another "home" game here in blighty in 2018:-
So Fax have no jet lag excuse for this game. Wonder what the excuse will be when Toronto put 50 past them.
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| Quote: SecondRowSaint "So Fax have no jet lag excuse for this game. Wonder what the excuse will be when Toronto put 50 past them.'"
The difference in budgets that the two clubs operate under? And it would be a valid one.
Not that I think Fax will lose by 50 but it's not even remotely a fair competition so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? |
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| Quote: Fax Machine "There is a reason for it though. It means that they will be playing potentially 2 to 4 less games than all the other Championship teams! Ergo, less injuries, blank weekends for recovery, less expense etc. giving them a definite advantage in their push for promotion.
I'd be surprised if any of the UK teams would be allowed to do this.'"
Should do what my club does most seasons. And get knocked out after 1 or 2 games.
And your right about now uk club being allowed to do it. Just as no uk Championship club would be allowed near Super Leagues magic weekend. |
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This is great news! Means I can watch the game without having to socialise with Leigh fans at the blackpool bash
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| Quote: Call Me God "Well done Keighley....attracting 5 gates of over 5k for games against Bradford (9 miles) and Halifax(12 miles).....outstanding work.......but in terms of expansionism, as much use as a chocolate tea-pot ![]()
You're wrong. Look at the crowds we were getting at the time (93 -96). Keighley were getting favorable crowds at the time. They were also the first club that was behind the razzmataz that became commonplace in RL. Music after tries, things for kids to do, making a day out at a game.
Given the lost there SL place, to a side that didn't have its own grounds and we're getting crowds of less than a 1000, but we're in a city. Yes they got every right to be a
Agreivied by what happened.
What you need is heartland clubs as well as expansion clubs, together making a go of it. With it being equal footing and rules for both.
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| Quote: Fax Machine "There is a reason for it though. It means that they will be playing potentially 2 to 4 less games than all the other Championship teams! Ergo, less injuries, blank weekends for recovery, less expense etc. giving them a definite advantage in their push for promotion.
I'd be surprised if any of the UK teams would be allowed to do this.'"
Personally, if a club doesn't want to enter a Cup then I don't see why they should be forced to. I would be surprised if it was mandatory although smaller clubs potentially have a chance for some extra exposure/revenue from it, hence why they probably enter. |
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| Quote: Lebron James "This is great news! Means I can watch the game without having to socialise with Leigh fans at the blackpool bash
Regards
King james'"
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| Quote: Fax Machine "There is a reason for it though. It means that they will be playing potentially 2 to 4 less games than all the other Championship teams! Ergo, less injuries, blank weekends for recovery, less expense etc. giving them a definite advantage in their push for promotion.
I'd be surprised if any of the UK teams would be allowed to do this.'"
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| Quote: luke ShipleyRed "You're wrong<SNIP>What you need is heartland clubs as well as expansion clubs, together making a go of it. With it being equal footing and rules for both.'"
Keighley got 5 gates over 5k in a decade.....I'd take New York, London, Paris, Munich.......  over a pit village any day of the week, especially one that's a 9 iron away from Bradford and Leeds.......
...we often wonder why we're ignored as a northern pastime and the stance that keighley were better for the game than the Broncos is exactly why....there are no better examples of NIMBY'S than Yorkshire folk in relation to RL.......if the game is the "life blood" of the region then it would be thriving at amateur level....it is't....chasing a 1.8 million cheque to then run a side that will cost 4 million and hope the 2.2 million will come from fans isn't a viable business plan....and Cougarmania wouldn't deliver half the needed funds......so you'd have another bottom tier side struggling to stay up and playing out of a hole ground......and wonder why the rest of the country couldn't give a flying one.
Toronto are on shaky ground year 2.....if they don't buy their way to SL in 2018 then the wheels may well come off completely, but I'd have them all day every day over "traditional" clubs with not a pot to pee in.....because Keighley failing isn't news, but Toronto is! |
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| Quote: Call Me God "Keighley got 5 gates over 5k in a decade.....I'd take New York, London, Paris, Munich....... ![]()
Paris were hardly a success. What 2 years, a couple of gates over 10,000, down to less than 3,000.
And I never said Keighley were better than London. What I said was I understood why they were aggrieved. London didn't exactly work out well. And till they have there own ground, they will struggle financially.
You actually think the rest of the country give a toss about who plays RL. I've said in this and other threads. Until we get a proper international calender, and get more intrest with regards international RL. People aren't going to care. The only reason RU is on more people's radar is because they have a proper international calender. Where the games are known years in advance. Until we do that we will always be in a losing battle with regards the media. So we aren't on people's radar.
Toronto is an interesting one, but I'm fairly sure that if they don't go up franchising will be brought back. But if Toronto fail, who other than RL supporters are going to care. As you said the general public don't care. So weather it's Keighley, Wakefield or Toronto, Toulouse they won't care. I now, as I'm the only one in my family who follows RL. And people in my family didn't even know Catalans had a team, let alone Toronto.
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "Calm down, you expansion loving Penus !!! 
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| Quote: Call Me God "Keighley got 5 gates over 5k in a decade.....I'd take New York, London, Paris, Munich....... ![]()
Toronto failing would be yet another blow for expansion, with the "traditionalists" lining up to say "I told you so". and to be fair, IF they were to fail, those people would be right.
There has to be some longevity to the plight of ANY RL club and a 3-4 year plan, based on attaining SL status isn't good business, whether it be a pit village or a metropolis.
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HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. 
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