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| Well done Cas! Though the LLS may not be viewd as the big prize or the prize that makes you the champions, it is the hardest to win.
Grand finals are hard to win. The pressure will be there but The salary cap is going okay and in a few years time different teams will be winning them. Hopefully this year.
Maybe one day the league leaders will start with points in the semi final and final to give them a deserved advantage.
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| The LLS would be the hardest to win if that's what all the teams were targeting at the start of the season, they're not. At the start of the season what every team is dreaming of and planning for is victory at Old Trafford because that is (currently) the mark of champions. All clubs, coaches, players and fans know this at the start of the season so I really don't understand why we keep having this debate towards the end of every season.
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| F'ing hell, if I see one more "if every team were targeting it but they're not"...
It's another trophy. If it isn't regarded highly, why did everyone bleat on about Leeds doing the treble. Double standards here.
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| Quote: AntonyGiant "Well done Cas! Though the LLS may not be viewd as the big prize or the prize that makes you the champions, it is the hardest to win.
Grand finals are hard to win. The pressure will be there but The salary cap is going okay and in a few years time different teams will be winning them. Hopefully this year.
Maybe one day the league leaders will start with points in the semi final and final to give them a deserved advantage.'"
Don't be ridiculous! The advantage is a home semi-final versus the team in 4th place. Points start? How many? Let me guess - 15? Ha,ha!
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| Quote: rollin thunder "can they? ask warrington fans. they cant win one'"
Couldn't buy one mate
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Fully agree with this - top 5 it should be, not only to give more benefit to the LLS winner and make it more valuable to achieve but it also makes S8's more interesting to the end.
week 1 - 4th v 5th loser eliminated
week 2 -game 1 - 1st v 2nd winner to GF game 2 - 3rd V winner of week 1
week 3 - loser Game 1 v winner game 2
week 4 - GF'"
We do need to return to a top 5 playoff as the current play-offs 1 v 4, 2 v 3 isn't long enough to generate real interest. I'm happy with the Super 8s format but we do need to extend the play-off structure by bringing back the top 5. I can't see a return however because the "player welfare brigade" will once again argue that the elite players play too many games during a successful season. Throw out the Magic Weekend game it only brings a small percentage of regular supporters together for an annual up.
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| Maybe he's like a few more of us who see the play offs and Grand Final as the worst system anyone could choose to produce the Champions. Most of the seasons games are still meaningless.
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| Quote: roader "Maybe he's like a few more of us who see the play offs and Grand Final as the worst system anyone could choose to produce the Champions. Most of the seasons games are still meaningless.'"
I bet you the response will be "but everyone knew it at the start of the season".
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| i don't care what anyone says, and if Cas fans (or others) don't like it, tough . the LLS is one of 3 trophies available and it is worth winning, but the Challenge Cup is bigger and the Grand final is the pinnacle. will the Cas fans and Powell be saying the LLs is more important than the grand final if they go on and win it, will they say we don't want it we've got the LLs. will they bolllox, they are just edging their bets and getting their excuses in early in case they can't do it.
when Leeds one our first LLs in 2004 i really wasn't too fussed as it was only half the job. it meant absolutely nothing and would be little consultation if we had not gone to old Trafford and won the grand final. the ecstasy when mcguire scored the clinching try will forever be with me. never got that with a challenge cup or lls, and it has been the same with every GF win since.
the last one in 2015 was great, mainly due to the stunning end last move in last ten seconds on of last game and one it, it also meant the treble was on, but if we lost at Huddersfield and won at old trafford then that game at Huddersfield would have been quickly forgot.
Grand final is here to stay anf 70k every year will testify to that.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "i don't care what anyone says, and if Cas fans (or others) don't like it, tough poop. the LLS is one of 3 trophies available and it is worth winning, but the Challenge Cup is bigger and the Grand final is the pinnacle. will the Cas fans and Powell be saying the LLs is more important than the grand final if they go on and win it, will they say we don't want it we've got the LLs. will they bolllox, they are just edging their bets and getting their excuses in early in case they can't do it.
when Leeds one our first LLs in 2004 i really wasn't too fussed as it was only half the job. it meant absolutely nothing and would be little consultation if we had not gone to old Trafford and won the grand final. the ecstasy when mcguire scored the clinching try will forever be with me. never got that with a challenge cup or lls, and it has been the same with every GF win since.
the last one in 2015 was great, mainly due to the stunning end last move in last ten seconds on of last game and one it, it also meant the treble was on, but if we lost at Huddersfield and won at old trafford then that game at Huddersfield would have been quickly forgot.
Grand final is here to stay anf 70k every year will testify to that.'"
You do realise the Cas Tigers have never won the LLS or finished top of the league in our 91 year history don't you ?
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| Quote: Willzay "F'ing hell, if I see one more "if every team were targeting it but they're not"...
You've answered your own question. It's the treble. Every trophy available. It's the least important of the three but you have to win it to win the treble.
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| Quote: Tigerade "You do realise the Cas Tigers have never won the LLS or finished top of the league in our 91 year history don't you ?'"
Really well who'd have thought it, no ones mentioned it.
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| Quote: rollin thunder " . . . the LLS is one of 3 trophies available and it is worth winning, but the Challenge Cup is bigger and the Grand final is the pinnacle . . .
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I think people get that, they just don't agree it should be the case
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| CC Is great if won the right way. You can get to Wembley winning against lower league opposition like Leeds nearly did.
The LLS shows which team has been the best throughout the season and for a little town in Wakey called Castleford this is a big thing after what we have been through in the last 15 years.
Yes we understand the Grand Final is the number 1 aim and that's what we will go for now but there is no reason after winning the shield we should not celebrate our first major trophy!!
As well as that we will host an NRL team down lane.
As well as that we win £100,000
For the club of Castleford this is huge. Just like it would be Wakey, Salford or any other lower club.
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| No surprise to see supporters of Cas's bitch pouring scorn on what is a fantastic achievement.
They've dined out on the treble for 2 years, but it's now been downgraded to a double and a token piece of tin.
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