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Quote: Gazwire "Re Walsh offside. If the players are in front of the kicker then they have to remain 10m away from the player catching it or the bounce of the ball. There were a good few saints players within that 10m.'"


Wrong, the law doesn't say anything about the bounce of the ball, only about a player catching it.

Quote: Gazwire "Saints not penalised once for have players in front of the ref in the defensive line, time and time again.'"


I remember at least one occasion they were penalised for offside.

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Quote: Gazwire "Re Walsh offside. If the players are in front of the kicker then they have to remain 10m away from the player catching it or the bounce of the ball. There were a good few saints players within that 10m.

You can ground a try with the torso.

Very harsh for Peyroux's try, but by the letter of the law there was no conclusive shot of the ball being grounded.

Saints not penalised once for have players in front of the ref in the defensive line, time and time again.'"

on linehams try, you can ground a loose ball with a torso, a ball dropped must be regathered before its touched down.

Saying that though, i havent seen enough from the replays we saw to say he definitely lost the ball before it was grounded.

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There was one penalty for them having 3 markers/offside. None given for offside line defence.

I stand corrected if it has to be the player catching it.

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Quote: Gazwire "Re Walsh offside. If the players are in front of the kicker then they have to remain 10m away from the player catching it or the bounce of the ball. There were a good few saints players within that 10m.'"


No, only if a Warrington player was going to catch which clearly none of them were. Thaler just blew without thinking and forgot Walsh was the guy who kicked it.

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I didn't see him fully lose the ball.

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What about Wilkin constantly joining a completed 2 player tackle as the players are about to move away. He was the top tacker tonight on 59 I think it was- amazing stuff!

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Quote: ThePrinter "No, only if a Warrington player was going to catch which clearly none of them were. Thaler just blew without thinking and forgot Walsh was the guy who kicked it.'"



Ratchford has incredibly long arms and was about to tackle it icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: ThePrinter "No, only if a Warrington player was going to catch which clearly none of them were. Thaler just blew without thinking and forgot Walsh was the guy who kicked it.'"


I've argued before that this is an area of the rules that needs clearing up because had a Warrington player knocked it on, there wouldnt have been an argument that it was offside. Its a silly part of the law that sees a player attempt and fail rewarded, But by not risking that knock-on they are (or should have been) punished.

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The problem is with this is that in theory you could send 4 players 50 yards forward in different places, kick the ball into a space where an opposing player won't get near it and near one of your 4 players to retrieve the ball and score a try?

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Quote: Gazwire "What about Wilkin constantly joining a completed 2 player tackle as the players are about to move away. He was the top tacker tonight on 59 I think it was- amazing stuff!'"

59 tackles, of which, 35 were flops and 20 were when he wasn't square at marker yet he was penalised for about three of them!

Had the ref policed the ruck correctly we'd have had about 36 points tonight through more dangerous field positions and nobody would really be talking about these decisions - their illegal spoiling tactics nearly won them a GF place when they shouldn't have even been in the game

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Wigan fans wanting Saints to win.....not surprising.

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Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Jesus. With the Lineham "try" and Peyroux's not being awarded, Saints have been well and truly shafted.'"


Good.

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "59 tackles, of which, 35 were flops and 20 were when he wasn't square at marker yet he was penalised for about three of them!

Had the ref policed the ruck correctly we'd have had about 36 points tonight through more dangerous field positions and nobody would really be talking about these decisions - their illegal spoiling tactics nearly won them a GF place when they shouldn't have even been in the game'"


Well he certainly didn't police the defensive line correctly; lost count the amount of times Saints were offisde yet strangely they only got pinged for it once or twice at a push......

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Quote: CommanderShepard "Well he certainly didn't police the defensive line correctly; lost count the amount of times Saints were offisde yet strangely they only got pinged for it once or twice at a push......'"


It's was once, and that wasn't for a breach of the 10m!

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Quote: CommanderShepard "Well he certainly didn't police the defensive line correctly; lost count the amount of times Saints were offisde yet strangely they only got pinged for it once or twice at a push......'"


8 - 3 penalty count and you're moaning about that?!

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