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Quote: cravenpark1 "Bring it on i hope it works, but if it does how long will the rich guy who is paying for it all carry on paying if they do well and get promoted'"


How long will Hudgell pump money into Rovers, or McManus into Saints?

I've read that there are a number of investors on board, albeit it's being driven by one person inparticular.

Unlike most of the Championship & League 1 clubs, Superleague is their aim, and we should do all we can to provide the stage for that investment and ambition to go as far as it can.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg





The End is Nigh

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "It's madness they are going to be in league 1. If were going to do this just put them in the super league.'"


No way. I think it's a great idea they're joining but let's not try and make them run before they can walk, wasn't that what they did with Crusaders. They should be allowed to grow and build at their pace.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: ThePrinter "No way. I think it's a great idea they're joining but let's not try and make them run before they can walk, wasn't that what they did with Crusaders. They should be allowed to grow and build at their pace.'"
Crusaders were League 1 Champions in 2007 and Championship runners-up (after extra time) in 2008.

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Quote: wire-quin "Whats the weather like in Toronto Feb/Mar? Is it not snowy!! Maybe play the first batch of matches in UK'"


Very, very cold (could be minus 20 plus windchill) and usually lots of snow. As I look out my front window, still no leaves on the trees and buds are just starting. Spring hasn't officially started yet. But July and August can be 90 degrees plus. Teams that come here early in the season will freeze to death and those that come late on will burn. icon_biggrin.gif

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From a Canadian perspective, I have to say that's a great logo - just right for this market. The only question in my mind is whether games against Rochdale and Gloucestershire All-Golds is really going to grip the imagination. Still, 99% of people in Canada will never have heard of Wigan (lucky them) or Saints or Warrington either, so perhaps it won't matter much. I could easily see them being in the Top 10 supported sides in the British game by the end of next season. Not that hard at all if they replicate the great crowds they have had for the international games (even against semi-amateur opposition. They are very marketing savvy and have a good social media presence and contacts to build on. I hope they can find room for a few home-grown players. Enoch Wamalwa is a young hard-running second row/prop that I'd like to see given a chance.

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Quote: mapleyther "From a Canadian perspective, I have to say that's a great logo - just right for this market. The only question in my mind is whether games against Rochdale and Gloucestershire All-Golds is really going to grip the imagination. Still, 99% of people in Canada will never have heard of Wigan (lucky them) or Saints or Warrington either, so perhaps it won't matter much. I could easily see them being in the Top 10 supported sides in the British game by the end of next season. Not that hard at all if they replicate the great crowds they have had for the international games (even against semi-amateur opposition. They are very marketing savvy and have a good social media presence and contacts to build on. I hope they can find room for a few home-grown players. Enoch Wamalwa is a young hard-running second row/prop that I'd like to see given a chance.'"




Toronto v hull could be well attended seeing as there is a hull close to ottawa icon_lol.gif

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For all those moaning about travel times

Quick Google search

Manchester to Toronto direct 7hrs 45min

Super 15s clubs for example

Sydney to Johannesburg 14hrs 30 mins

Guess we shouldn't moan too much lol

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"no thought for the fans" is one of my favourites from the luddites this evening.

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Quote: headhunter "Crusaders were League 1 Champions in 2007 and Championship runners-up (after extra time) in 2008.'"


Being ready for Super League is about a lot more than just on field results.

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant ""no thought for the fans" is one of my favourites from the luddites this evening.'"

There seems to be a belief amongst some that every RL fan has a god-given right to be able to make every game and be home in time for the antiques roadshow.

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Quote: mapleyther "From a Canadian perspective, I have to say that's a great logo - just right for this market. The only question in my mind is whether games against Rochdale and Gloucestershire All-Golds is really going to grip the imagination. Still, 99% of people in Canada will never have heard of Wigan (lucky them) or Saints or Warrington either, so perhaps it won't matter much.'"


Read a suggestion elsewhere that perhaps two SL teams could go over and have a game in Toronto. Would mean one team willing to sacrifice a home fixture but could possibly have a double header at Toronto's ground with their match on beforehand. Could be something worth trying.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



This is mint. I hope Saints draw them away in the challenge cup. I havent been yet but it will already be my favourite away game

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Quote: ThePrinter "Read a suggestion elsewhere that perhaps two SL teams could go over and have a game in Toronto. Would mean one team willing to sacrifice a home fixture but could possibly have a double header at Toronto's ground with their match on beforehand. Could be something worth trying.'"



wigan the best bet then icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: ThePrinter "Read a suggestion elsewhere that perhaps two SL teams could go over and have a game in Toronto. Would mean one team willing to sacrifice a home fixture but could possibly have a double header at Toronto's ground with their match on beforehand. Could be something worth trying.'"
I don't see how that would be of any benefit at all. People in Canada have not heard of Wigan and St Helens any more than they have heard of Hemel or Keighley. If SL teams were doing that then they would be better off playing in Vancouver TBH, where there is arguably a stronger grassroots RL base than Toronto.

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