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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Jim Pooley "1. The article patently states that he didnt do things the way they shoud have been. Not applying to union, but apllying to the correct sports body for the right to play the sport.......as ALL sports have to.
2. Whats the fascination with the nazis? Do you feel the need to over egg the pudding all the time or just when your losing a debate?'"
1. Again, what was he supposed to do that he hasn't done? He wasn't arrested for not following procedures, he was arrested because the RU body claimed that by starting a RL federation he was somehow impersonating them and infringing on their jurisdiction, which is absolutely, fundamentally wrong as RL and RU are completely different sports. There is no mention of Nissan or any kind of sponsorship in the communique and I'm not sure why you keep referring to that.

2. Because I feel like you're not very intelligent and require sensationalist comparisons to understand simple concepts. 'Local spat' or not, a man has been arrested at the behest of RU for nothing other than starting a RL federation. This is an issue that requires attention and if WorldRugby don't act then they cannot claim to have any integrity as a governing body because they're effectively endorsing these actions.

The issue here is that the UAE RU body incorrectly claimed that RL and RU were the same sport, and for whatever reason the government believed them. Outside parties need to step in and make it clear that they are completely different sports, that RU has no jurisdiction or ownership of RL and then ensure that Sol Mokdad is released from prison and allowed to go free. If this doesn't happen then this illegal situation will continue. 'Just a local spat' is one of the most bizarre and pathetic excuses for corruption I've ever heard.

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Hopefully he will be released soon.

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Quote: headhunter "1. Again, what was he supposed to do that he hasn't done?'"

are you really that slow?
to run and oversee a sport....ANY sport in UAE, you need to be registered. Now, registration, generally involves paper work.......forget unions bogus claims of governance and forget the fraud case......before all of this, the correct procedures we're not adhered to........and thats why he was brought to the attention of the authorities.
Now it seems he's there illegally........outstanding governance from the rlef icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Jim Pooley "are you really that slow?
to run and oversee a sport....ANY sport in UAE, you need to be registered. Now, registration, generally involves paper work.......forget unions bogus claims of governance and forget the fraud case......before all of this, the correct procedures we're not adhered to........and thats why he was brought to the attention of the authorities.
Now it seems he's there illegally........outstanding governance from the rlef

Haven't seen a sidestep like that since Paul Newlove was playing

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Quote: Jim Pooley "are you really that slow?
to run and oversee a sport....ANY sport in UAE, you need to be registered. Now, registration, generally involves paper work.......forget unions bogus claims of governance and forget the fraud case......before all of this, the correct procedures we're not adhered to........and thats why he was brought to the attention of the authorities.
Now it seems he's there illegally........outstanding governance from the rlef

Just look at the bigger picture instead of trying to find a view which suits your agenda. Whether they are an illegal sport in the UAE or not, what has it go to do with UAERU? And before you start going on about the Nissan deal, you need to back that argument up with facts and not hearsay or conjecture.

What everyone else has done is provided an argument based on the facts of the articles and statements released about this story. What your argument is based upon is mainly guess work. Yes they should have registered the sport legally first, but the question remains. Why are the local RU getting involved and claiming the rights over a totally different sport? Its like the ECB claiming rights over UK Baseball because they both play with a bat and ball.

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I notice the Union apologists have stayed very quiet on the issues in Italy.

I'll wait while they try and drag up some irrelevant point to try and pretend it's not actually happening.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Him "I notice the Union apologists have stayed very quiet on the issues in Italy.

I'll wait while they try and drag up some irrelevant point to try and pretend it's not actually happening.'"


I've heard from a completely unreliable and totally one eyed source that the Italian issues are nothing more than just a local spat.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Jim Pooley "are you really that slow?
to run and oversee a sport....ANY sport in UAE, you need to be registered. Now, registration, generally involves paper work.......forget unions bogus claims of governance and forget the fraud case......before all of this, the correct procedures we're not adhered to........and thats why he was brought to the attention of the authorities.
Now it seems he's there illegally........outstanding governance from the rlef www.rlef.eu.com/news/article/105 ... sses-range
Quote: "Concerning UAE, Sol Mokdad, president of the Rugby League Commission in the UAE, which is an Observer of the RLEF, was imprisoned last Wednesday following a charge filed by the Emirati rugby union federation. The RLIF appointed legal representation and is corresponding with the authorities in the UAE.'"
www.rlef.eu.com/news/article/105 ... sses-range


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Quote: From RLIF website "RLIF Statement regarding Rugby League in Italy

The Rugby League International Federation has today (May 6th 2015) issued the following statement concerning Italian rugby league

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Him ".'"
Yes, I'm fully aware of the situation, the LIRFL is an organization that has been around for approx. 5 years after splitting away from the officially recognized Italian RL body due to a board dispute. Ignored by the RLEF since then, they have been seeking some sort of official recognition with the Italian government to prove themselves and their latest attempt was to seek affiliation with the FIR, which indirectly makes them a government-recognized body. Obviously it's constitutionally wrong but the FIR are not the bad guys here, they didn't instigate this situation and there is no obstruction to RL, it's just a case of it needing to be cleared up to them and to the Italian government that they can't endorse a RL body and then some sort of reconciliation between the RLEF-endorsed body and the LIRFL.

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Quote: loiner81 "I've heard from a completely unreliable and totally one eyed source that the Italian issues are nothing more than just a local spat.'"

Good lad....taking aim before shooting yourself in the foot......

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Jim Pooley "Good lad....taking aim before shooting yourself in the foot......'"


And that's your one and only response is it. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: loiner81 "And that's your one and only response is it. d040.gif

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: Jim Pooley "If you'd prefer......
...sounds like a RL v RL Italian Issue there..........no doubt the conspiracy theorists will blame Will Carling
So you've moved on from the UAE being a local spat then?

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