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Can anyone answer when the appeal will be heard / final punishment decided?

Just want this sorting asap given the potential ramifications for other clubs. The RFL have enough people claiming conspiracy at every decision, so the sooner they can finalise this sorry episode the better

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With a hardcore support of 2,341 these days (I'll be generous in assuming not a single Catalan supporter turned up to Odsal yesterday) the sooner they are relegated (along with London) the better.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "And I am fine with that. I don’t believe that a points penalty would have positively affected that situation, you are arguing it would.

You also ignore the other example, not of clubs being in a CVA but actually being in administration for a long period of time.

why arbitrarily only judge consistency on those three events? ignoring all the years that went before?'"


Yes, but you were going into pre SL or, clubs not in the top flight, which is hardly relevant is it ?
I think that you and I have to agree to disagree on this one and fwiw, if Wakefield had gone into admin, I would certainly have expected either demotion or a points deduction, as I believe would be the case for other clubs, in the current climate.
As you know HMRC have got brassed off with sporting organisations going into admin and avoiding paying their tax liabilities and this is the main reason that Football (and RL) have been somewhat harder, on defaulting clubs, in recent years.
You seem to want to go against this trend, because it's Bradford that are involved.
Whether this is a case of principle, or favouritism, we don't know but, judging by the poll on this thread, you remain in a very small minority.

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Quote: wrencat1873 ",,, fwiw, if Wakefield had gone into admin, I would certainly have expected either demotion or a points deduction '"

Sure you would, and delighted you'd have been. Odd you don't mention expecting a fine of a year's distribution in the mix.

Quote: wrencat1873 ",As you know HMRC have got brassed off with sporting organisations going into admin and avoiding paying their tax liabilities and this is the main reason that Football (and RL) have been somewhat harder, on defaulting clubs, in recent years.
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I think you misrepresent his position entirely. However, in the case of a club that has gone bust owing HMRC approx. ÂŁ170K, due very largely to the unprecedented fine of ÂŁ1.6m, I don't think that the RFL or the clubs voting to pay themselves a share of Bradford's money is quite in the spirit, do you?

If each club that stole a share of Brtadford's money chipped in a mere ÂŁ17K back, then HMRC would be clear, no longer brassed off, and all would be happy. However I expect instead you'll all talk a good game, but hypocritically still keep taking Bradford's money, when it could and should be going to pay creditors.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Yes, but you were going into pre SL or, clubs not in the top flight, which is hardly relevant is it ?
I think that you and I have to agree to disagree on this one and fwiw, if Wakefield had gone into admin, I would certainly have expected either demotion or a points deduction, as I believe would be the case for other clubs, in the current climate.
As you know HMRC have got brassed off with sporting organisations going into admin and avoiding paying their tax liabilities and this is the main reason that Football (and RL) have been somewhat harder, on defaulting clubs, in recent years.
You seem to want to go against this trend, because it's Bradford that are involved.
Whether this is a case of principle, or favouritism, we don't know but, judging by the poll on this thread, you remain in a very small minority.'"

Neither 97, nor 2000 are pre SL.

And again, I don't want to go against this, I want us to actually do it rather than pretend to. I want the people who take clubs in to admin to actually be punished, I want an actual deterrent rather than a token gesture which is no deterrent at all.

I'm sure HMRC would be absolutely delighted if we did this.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Sure you would, and delighted you'd have been. Odd you don't mention expecting a fine of a year's distribution in the mix.

I think you misrepresent his position entirely. However, in the case of a club that has gone bust owing HMRC approx. ÂŁ170K, due very largely to the unprecedented fine of ÂŁ1.6m, I don't think that the RFL or the clubs voting to pay themselves a share of Bradford's money is quite in the spirit, do you?'"


If you don't like it, don't go bust (again). The space below is for you to point out that "you" didn't actually go bust...

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "If each club that stole a share of Brtadford's money chipped in a mere ÂŁ17K back, then HMRC would be clear, no longer brassed off, and all would be happy. However I expect instead you'll all talk a good game, but hypocritically still keep taking Bradford's money, when it could and should be going to pay creditors.'"


If you are happy to accuse the other 13 clubs of theft, I don't feel quite so bad for referring to the "fine" as a bribe to let Bradford stay in SL.

Incidentally, do you have any evidence to support your assertion that it was in fact a fine?

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Quote: Charlie Sierra "
If you are happy to accuse the other 13 clubs of theft, I don't feel quite so bad for referring to the "fine" as a bribe to let Bradford stay in SL. '"

Seems fair enough.

Quote: Charlie Sierra "Incidentally, do you have any evidence to support your assertion that it was in fact a fine?'"

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