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Quote: gutterfax "Xmas dinner involves opening 2 tins of beer, drinking 1/3 of each and ramming the 2/3rd full tin up each booty of 2 chickens, then place the chickens, standing upon the tins, on the BBQ, close lid and cook! Beer Butt Chicken...




...you carry on peeling sprouts if you must
Which is an American thing I believe?

It also look quite awful, you can keep it.

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Quote: christopher "Which is an American thing I believe?

It also look quite awful, you can keep it.'"

It may well be American.....but I can assure you, you'll have to go a long way to get a more moist chicken.

Look at this thread....it's gone all Delia...

Let's be 'avin ya!

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Quote: gutterfax "It may well be American.....but I can assure you, you'll have to go a long way to get a more moist chicken.

Look at this thread....it's gone all Delia...

Let's be 'avin ya!'"


Luckily I'm able to cook a chicken properly without shoving a beer can up its arris and sticking it on a gas BBQ but yet again each to is own

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Quote: christopher "Luckily I'm able to cook a chicken properly without shoving a beer can up its arris and sticking it on a gas BBQ but yet again each to is own'"


It seems that Australia offers Sam Burgess his preferred lifestyle. Sam Burgess is in process of becoming an Australian citizen. That is why I just can't see him blowing his his highly paid, high profile, high prestige job at South Sydney Rabbitohs (where he is routinely rated one of the top 10 players in the NRL), for a precarious "challenge" and uncertain future in an English rugby union, whose relevant national and club authorities have not even approached him.

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Daily mail (fail) backpage splash tomorrow, it's a done deal, £500k fee + one of the highest earners in Rugby.
Tapped up by the gobe Andy Farrell.

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It seemed credible up until they said the fee was £500k. Not a chance in hell that they would sell him for that.

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The fee is probalby only compensation for the remainder of his contract and a gesture seeing as he's moving sports rather than clubs.

It wouldn't drive him to make the move but it might be a small factor, he moves and there is more than likely more game time for his brothers.

Very disappointed, Farrell the snake.

Must be going for peanuts if the club signing him are to stay under the cap. The good performance against SBW must have gone to his head, he'll be trying his hand at boxing next.

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Quote: FoxyDread "The fee is probalby only compensation for the remainder of his contract and a gesture seeing as he's moving sports rather than clubs.

It wouldn't drive him to make the move but it might be a small factor, he moves and there is more than likely more game time for his brothers.

Very disappointed, Farrell the snake.

Must be going for peanuts if the club signing him are to stay under the cap. The good performance against SBW must have gone to his head, he'll be trying his hand at boxing next.'"


The fee isn't paid to him, it's paid to souths, who are, all told loaded. Hence 500k seems suspiously small to convince them to sell.

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Quote: gutterfax "opening 2 tins of beer, drinking 1/3 of each and ramming the 2/3rd full tin up each booty of 2 chickens, then place the chickens, standing upon the tins, on the BBQ, close lid '"
This is straight out of your Rah Rah party manual, right?

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "The fee isn't paid to him, it's paid to souths, who are, all told loaded. Hence 500k seems suspiously small to convince them to sell.'"


I know, the point is he's moving sports, he could just walk away from his contract and Souths would have to pursue him for breach of contract, there is no framework whereby they could pursue his new club.

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Quote: FoxyDread "I know, the point is he's moving sports, he could just walk away from his contract and Souths would have to pursue him for breach of contract, there is no framework whereby they could pursue his new club.'"


Yes there is, if that were true, contracts would be even more meaningless than they are already in sport. Any new club/ company would be liable for any settlement the souths demanded, regardless of what sport they played. If they refused, souths would take it court and will either use sam personally for the price deemed a suitable transfer price for him (which his new team will ultimately be responsible for), or he is put in jail for breach of contract.

In that scenario it's similar to the breach of contract Harris was guilty of when he signed for Bradford. How well did that go for bradford?

The only way he could use your argument is if he told souths he was desperately unhappy ...

Edit: I'm not denying this now seems an eminent possibility I'm just saying for 500,000 I'd of chipped in at saints for the signature!

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What framework is there for the NRL/South Sydney to pursue this, are they going to ask the RFL to ban him from playing Rugby Union?

They can pursue the player for breach of contract, i've always stated that, but they can't stop him earning a living if he's no longer playing Rugby League.

I find it hard to see how they could pursue this with Bath, Leicester or whoever. How would that work?

Because of the difficulties it's easier for them to accept an offer of compensation that relates to the remainder of his contract.

In England Breach of Contract is a civil matter and not one that would get the defendant sent to prison.

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Quote: FoxyDread "What framework is there for the NRL/South Sydney to pursue this, are they going to ask the RFL to ban him from playing Rugby Union?

They can pursue the player for breach of contract, i've always stated that, but they can't stop him earning a living if he's no longer playing Rugby League.

I find it hard to see how they could pursue this with Bath, Leicester or whoever. How would that work?

Because of the difficulties it's easier for them to accept an offer of compensation that relates to the remainder of his contract.

In England Breach of Contract is a civil matter and not one that would get the defendant sent to prison.'"


They don't need to stop him playing union. In the worst case scenario (for burgess and the rfu) if they convinced him to walk out of his contract without souths agreeing a fee for it, then souths can go to town in the courts. He would be liable for the perceived value souths felt that had lost due to his breach: prize money, sponsorships, attendences they could easily go for the $5-10mill range (very ambitious but that's what you do in this case) - either the rfu can pay it for him - and souths get far more than the £500,000 - or they refuse to pay that - in which case they can get burgess sent back to aus, for ignoring a court order, which is a criminal case and he can be incarcerated for.

It seems like it's happening, but the numbers quoted baffle me. It's not even like bath have loads of cap space free so they can pay him a tonne - I just don't get it

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Sonny Bill Williams left Canterbury with 4 years on his deal to run, he had to pay $750,000. Sam's got 2 years left.

Without a international game of note this will always happen.

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