Yeah.......coz where Australia leads, the world follows!

indeed it has in so many ways and cases. Google Australian inventions to see just how much.

Australia is the first country to show just how inferior RU is to RL and the public have awoken to this fact and abandoned the kick and clap game in droves. It will soon be totally decimated, they've cut salaries, been relegated to Pay TV and are realising they can't even sustain 5 professional teams in the whole country. NRL is developing the blue print for others to follow.

couldn't be any further from the truth.

yes now take out the event day attendances and it will drop by at least 3k. Also leciester tigers ground only holds 24k and there is no way they have sell outs of game. Like i said inflated figures for what ever reason.

Thank you for proving a point that it can be done just needs the correct amount of backing.

Why people class human beings is beyond me but hey prejudice, stereotyping and discrimination comes in all forms.
The "affluent classes" as I would define them are probably those born in the late 40's and during the 50's.
It would appear, according to experts on these subjects, that there is more disposable income available to them, ignoring all the hoo-hah regarding state pensions.
The challenge is to get them to be more involved whilst realising that you need to keep the younger element interested as well.
Time for the clubs , RFL and SL to look at what they are doing and need to do regarding the promotion and marketing of the game as a whole.
I will start and say the RFL website needs a total overhaul with first thing needing to change is the awful drab colour scheme.

You are wrong again but that should be of no surprise to anyone. Excluding the "event" attendances, the average drops by just over 1k (or 1,150 to be exact). Without the event attendances, the Arriva Premiership average is still almost 34% higher than Super League.

Super League Total & Average (2013)
Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13)
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Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13)
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Check out Sky Sports 2 right now. Another Leicester home game (this time a pool game against Ulster in the Heineken Cup). Guess what? The ground is chocka full.

difference being heineken cup and not aviva. and Ulster have quite a big following as well.

So what were saying is if you want to get attendences above 20k make sure there is no good football (soccer) club within a 50 mile radius?

Got it.

Have you been counting them on TV?

What I'm saying is that Aviva Premership attendances are way higher than Super League attendances.

Have you got that?

The self-flagellating dubairl clearly hasn't.

Im sure you have. but no i watched saracens today and that is enough union for the day.

If Bradford and wakefield had been relegated out of SLE,then in a couple of years time Leeds would probably have been the first club to attain regular 20k gates,but hey ho lets keep working on ideas to keep failed clubs in the league

You wonder why people have issue with the points you make when you present them to a rugby league forum like that?

And I seriously don't care if extreme kite flying has higher attendances in India than rugby league does in England.

There is a 1000 different variances which stop it being a direct comparison. Proximity to the premier sport in this country is only one of them (I'd be very interested to see how Leicester tigers attendances and Leicester City fc attendances track together over time mind.)

The only true statistics in your list would be Leeds rhinos vs Leeds tykes (but I don't believe tykes are in the top division at the moment) and harlequins ru vs harlequins rl (where I'm sure ru "wins dramatically" but if quins ru had been dragged around the city of London for the last 30 years it might be a different story) there are arguments I suppose that Salford vs sale is fair but then you start having to quantify "identity" of a club so probably not.

Stats can be made to show literally anything. That's why to the majority they mean nothing (my stats professor used to say that) - in sheer number your data suggests more people physically attended an area whereby professional sport rugby union is occurring. The rest is conjecture.

Ah.,.....so his response to sweeping incorrect statements using facts isn't to your liking then? If the more insecure posters amongst us weren't so hell bent on making themselves look stupid, then Billy would be out of a job. I for one enjoy his statistical posts.

He doesn't offer contradictions......unlike your good self.




Which is it? Either you care or you don't?

Then....and this is pretty clever, you compare the 2 Leeds clubs but almost childishly dismiss the Harlequins clubs and the 2 sharing the stadium near Manchester because they most assuredly don't suit your point of view.