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Quote: Easty "The RFL have stated that the bottom two will be removed. They also confirmed that London are not immune to the restructuring of the League. It will be done fairly on league positions.'"


They have form on changing their minds though as Widnes know to their cost.

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Can anyone provide a link to an official statement as to how the reduction of SL by two places will be effected?

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Quote: Mr Churchill "No. I think this will be a fantastic long term structure for the game as a whole in this country.

The proposed framework for the split of sky money associated with the new 2x12; 3x8 structure and soon to be put to the clubs will be more equitable than the current split, better benefitting the top 12 clubs AND those below as well. Although it won't be explicit, there'll be effective provision for what have been called parachute payments. It will be pretty ingenious, albeit simple. You'll see.'"

In that case rather than attempting another sales pitch, you could address some of the concerns offered? they are certainly concerns i agree with.

Im also interested to hear your explanation about how everyone will be better off from this new split of funds? Is there more money now guaranteed? because if not someone is losing out.

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Quote: Neville Davies "Salford 1970.
I think you should read the whole thread. I have never used the word "hate". I said a "little anti Salford stuff."If my view on 6th place is "utterly ridiculous" I don't know what your view would be on Adrian Morley's statement in the League Express on 30-12-13 I quote; "Marwan wants the top four, and I don't think that's out of the question or unrealistic" I am happy to be a dreamer,but I think 6th place is up for grabs.'"

I'd be astounded if Salford made the top 6, as mentioned it'd be a big achievement to make the top 8. If I were a Salford fan I'd be looking for an 8th-10th finish this year and then steadily improve and build the squad year on year.

Whilst Salford have made some decent signings they still have a comparatively weak squad when judged next to the current top 6 or top 8 clubs.

Salford is a work in progress, it's not going to happen over night, and hopefully Dr Koukash is putting as much money into building the club and it's infrastructure as he is into the first team.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "could address some of the concerns offered?

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People have their views, I have mine. I'd suggest that whatever concerns are aluded to, they will be better addressed under the new long term structure than under the one that has prevailed in recent years.



Quote: SmokeyTA "
Im also interested to hear your explanation about how everyone will be better off from this new split of funds? Is there more money now guaranteed? because if not someone is losing out.'"


I couldn't reveal the precise details at this stage even if were privy to them. Yes, the 2 SL clubs that are relegated at the end of this season will have a reduced Sky allocation in 2015. That apart, and in very general terms, everybody else will be better off as you'll agree that 1/15th of the Sky money for the top 12 is better than 1/16th and 2/15th's spread in a graded fashion across the clubs outside the top 12 is better than sharing 1/16th.

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Quote: Mr Churchill "People have their views, I have mine. I'd suggest that whatever concerns are aluded to, they will be better addressed under the new long term structure than under the one that has prevailed in recent years.'"
Your view is that you like this new structure so any concerns will be better addressed under it, even if you don’t know what those concerns are, or how they will be better under it. They just will be better under it. Because you like it. Well, if nothing else, at least that is honest. eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif

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think it will be 1 team relegated at the the end of the 2014 season... that being london broncos who most likely will finish bottom.

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Quote: brearley84 "think it will be 1 team relegated at the the end of the 2014 season... that being london broncos who most likely will finish bottom.'"


Why only 1 team ?
There has only been talk of dropping to 12 and although the exact why's and where's still need to be ratified, it does appear that 2 teams will be culled/relegated.
Of course, if the 2 were Catalan and London, then expect some new criteria to be found (or some additional Sky funds etc)
Relegation cannot work if we are trying to expand the game beyond the M62 corridor, it just isn't possible.

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They won't relegate 1 team. It'll either be 2 or none. Otherwise the Magic Weekend doesn't work.

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why unbalance it wth a magic weekend when 22 games plus 7 more would suffice. totally makes a mockery of a proper league by picking which teams randomly play another mostly on the back of recognised rivalries. That it is one off event that generates less money for clubs if they had played that game at the respective grounds then it should be dropped IF the RFL are insistant on the 2x12 3x8 format.

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Sadly I think bottom two will be London and ourselves. We've not strengthen well enough.

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Quote: Him "I'd be astounded if Salford made the top 6, as mentioned it'd be a big achievement to make the top 8. If I were a Salford fan I'd be looking for an 8th-10th finish this year and then steadily improve and build the squad year on year.

Whilst Salford have made some decent signings they still have a comparatively weak squad when judged next to the current top 6 or top 8 clubs.

Salford is a work in progress, it's not going to happen over night, and hopefully Dr Koukash is putting as much money into building the club and it's infrastructure as he is into the first team.'"

I happen to agree with you to some extent, but what is our squad?
Do you know any of them? Without cheating and googling it?
I keep hearing this "weak squad" line trotted out, but no-one seems to back it up with anything.

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Quote: northmanchesterdevil "I happen to agree with you to some extent, but what is our squad?
Do you know any of them? Without cheating and googling it?
I keep hearing this "weak squad" line trotted out, but no-one seems to back it up with anything.'"


I'm not sure why whether or not someone being able to name 1 - 25 of a squad means their judgement of it is invalid - can you name every squad in superleague? Yet you'll have an idea of how each club will go.

The point is, if you scratch away the signings made this year, your left with a team who finished bottom, and wasn't strong on paper either.

Picking up 4/5 injuries at once isn't uncommon, but will expose those players who finished bottom this season, and will cause a much greater struggle. Coupled with the fact a few of the players you signed fall into the older category, if they pick up an injury it can take longer to return, further exposing the weaker players.

Other clubs, who you see Salford as competing with - will be much better able to cope with those injuries, as have players who have proven capable of stepping in in the case of injuries.

As I said, 7/8/9 is not unachievable, and should be celebrated, but it won't be easy.

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Quote: northmanchesterdevil "I happen to agree with you to some extent, but what is our squad?
Do you know any of them? Without cheating and googling it?
I keep hearing this "weak squad" line trotted out, but no-one seems to back it up with anything.'"

Of course I had to google it! I had an idea from the signings made that I'd remembered but bloody hell I know we're all geeks on here by definition but I can't remember the exact squads of every team! I doubt I'd get Leeds' 1-25 exactly right.
But yeah, as Magic Superbeetle says, factor in injuries and the strength of the top 8/top 6 squads that was the context of my post, I'd still contend that Salford has a comparatively weak squad.

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